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Ron Turner: Taking a shot on the way out. I'm so sick of this loser. It's bad enough that he has done a horrible job for years, he is making excuses yet again. We can debate run-first vs a pass-first philosophy all we want. I just want a real offensive coach. Not an imposter who probably couldn't coach a high school team to win. The offense just got drastically better.

Ron Turner expects to be back. http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/ron-turner-expects-to-return-as-coordinator.html Does this loser ever stop making excuses? This makes me sick. If they bring this idiot back, throw away next year as well. Since we're probably going to be stuck with Lovie's defense, getting Turner's offense as well will do us in. He's the one coaching the terrible receivers, horrible offensive line, and reckless QB. Let's give credit where credit is due.

Neither of whom are really anything special either. A lot of people passed on them. Who knows what either of them do with the Bears offense and blocking. They'd probably suck too. Chris Johnson when just a few picks before Forte that draft. Now that would have really been nice.

Great. Did Ron Turner save his job? I hope to god no.

That he doesn't necessarily make his team better.

Noah is a beast. And for all who think Gordon is such an impact player. He had another typical BG game. 21 pts, 1 rebound, 3 assists, 3 TO's. Pistons without BG this year: 4-7 Pistons with BG this year: 7-14 $58 million over 5 years. Thank god we passed.

Yeah, he hasn't run back a kick in a long time. And isn't he making like $10 million/year?

I'm not sure what the Bears could get for Hester. Probably not something great. I can also see Hester ripping up the league on a team with a real offensive coordinator and decent QB.

Aromashodu, I believe sprained his ankle in practice AFTER the preseason games. He was originally the #3, but couldn't play the first 2 weeks and Knox became the 3. Knox did so well that Aromashodu was kept inactive for a few more weeks and then never saw the field when he was active after the bye week. Cutler campaigned for him to get on the field because he is the team's biggest WR. I'm sure Iglesias can play too. The Bears look like idiots for having Earl Bennett on the bench last year so Marty Booker could play. So, I'm guessing this is a similar case of the Bears not putting their best players on the field due to a veteran presence. This is what happens when you can't coach. You blame bad plays on inexperience on the part of the players. And you are afraid to put young guys out there who might make mistakes.

OK. We have a deal!

What a fool. He always seem to have some excuse. And his adjustments seemed to work so well this year. What are the odds this fool ever gets a job again.

I agree but if Houston is asking for Thomas along with the expirings then the Bulls should ask for Landry or Scola. At this point I don't know if Houston is asking for Thomas. I agree. If Thomas is in the deal, then the deal doesn't make much sense for the Bulls. If Scola/Landry are in also, it doesn't make much sense for the Rockets. Who knows if TMac can even play right now. I wouldn't unload Thomas for him, even with the cap situation. You can always trade Thomas in the offseason if absolutely necessary.

This game showed me even more that Lovie and his staff, namely Ron Turner, should be fired. The Bears actually looked like a decent team yesterday. At least not a team terribly lacking in talent, as so many had thought. People shouldn't be asking if this win could save the coaching staff. The question I have is why the team has sucked so badly so many times this year. They have continually failed to win close winnable games. They have gotten absolutely blown out by teams who didn't even need to punt for entire halves. If the team can look pretty good against one of the better teams in the league, then it can't be all about the talent. Some specific reasons why the coaching staff needs to go: 1) Second half: After the coaching staff seemed to have come out with a decent good game plan and put together a good half, the Vikings pretty much had there way in the second half. This shows how outclassed Lovie and his staff seem to be whenever the Bears take the field. Maybe they get lucky sometimes. But other coaches are better at adjusting to the game. 2) Offensive line: Sure, the Bears seem to have big problems here. But really, how much of this is coaching? I happen to think offensive line play is more about coaching than people seem to think. It's not as simple as a 300 pounder keeping another 300 pounder away from your QB or RB. Take the first half. Nobody touched Cutler. Forte actually got some yards. During parts of the second half, the defense collapsed on Cutler before he could even complete his 5 step drop. The same players on both sides of the ball. Why is that? Because the coaching sucks. Line play relies on talent of course. But it also relies on movement, matchups, plays, schemes. Here is where the offensive line has consistently been outmatched for years. Maybe Lovie and Turner got lucky again in designing a good game plan for the line in the first half. It certainly didn't last long. 3) Personnel decisions: It makes you wonder why guys like Aromashodu or Williams haven't been used like they were yesterday for much of the year. I blame the coaches. To me, it looked like Lovie and Ron just got lucky by pushing the right buttons in the first half. It was clearly luck, as the play of the Bears in the first half were the exception rather than the rule this year. The coaches showed their true colors in the second half, where they were outclassed, and they actually were lucky to win the game. Coaching is more important in football than in any other sport. You can't win when you have inferior coaches running the show. I'd like to know how good they could be with a real coach. This team hasn't had a head coach that has won for the Bears or any other team since Ditka. And even he couldn't win with any other team.

SUCK IT VIKINGS!! Woohoo!! Bears win. Now STILL fire Lovie and Ron. This just proves that the team does have some talent and they have been badly coached.

"After further review, the player fumbled the ball before he was down. However, it was a facemask prior to the fumble. 15 yard penalty from the spot of the foul. First down Vikings!"

FUMBLE!!! Suck it Vikes!

A pass rush!

They are so running it here.

Nice TD! Hey, time for some Ron Turner love fest from ESPN. When Cutler throws another pick, it's be back to blaming Cutler.

Maybe Cutler made a bad decision. But this offense looks like a high school offense compared to the Vikings. Guys are just standing around waiting for a pass. Passes aren't thrown to spots, they are thrown to receivers standing still. All year. Every Bear QB that has played under Turner has had no time to throw, and has thrown picks. How about some blame going to the offensive scheme and not just the players.

One team adjusted at halftime, the other didn't That's what happens when you have Lovie and Turner. Coaches that are just simply outclassed every time they take the field.

Why aren't Gruden and Jaworski blaming Ron Turner for the collapse of the O line? It's the same players as the first half. But now all the sudden, they are getting worked. Clearly, offensive line play has a lot to do with play design and mismatches, not just getting in front of a defender. The bad offensive line has been the norm all year, not the good one.

I still give the Vikes a 50% chance of winning this game.

Seriously. These guys should shut up about Ron Turner.

ESPN had reported that VDN firing imminent. Doug Collins name has come up again. Now, the latest has VDN denying the reports that he's gone. http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=4776746