I like Kirk too, he knows his stuff. Seems like the only people that don't like Kirk are OSU fans who don't like that he isn't a homer. Indeed. Herbie is a first class talent. He use to get harrassed all the time by the local knuckleheads in Columbus when I lived there. I think if he wasn't an OSU alum the radio station would have fired him a long time ago. They fired his co-host in 1999 for giving "it" to one of the callers/listeners and then going off on a 5 minute tirade on what idiots/uninformed most of the listening audience was. Then shortly afterwords they hired Neanderthal Chris Speilman to do the show right before Herbie's. And its all Buckeyes all the time. Really? I knew OSU fans got upset sometimes because he isn't a blind homer, but I still would have thought he was somewhat of a hero out there. The deal about his co-host sounds pretty good though, I wish I could hear it. So many of the people who call into sports talk radio are just clueless. I guess one just has to live in Columbus. It's smack dab in the middle of the state with the only pro sports franchize within a three hour driving distance being the NHL Blue Jackets. A good majority of the people have never lived anywhere else and good minority of the people are OSU grads who have hung around. They eat, sleep, and drink Buckeye sports. I've never seen a place so obsessed with the local university and I grew up 8 miles north of the Golden Dome. The athletes at OSU are treated like demi-gods and Woody Hayes is god. Don't get me wrong, I got a first class education at OSU and wouldn't trade it for anything. However, while my car was parked in an OSU lot it was worked over pretty good ($4,000 worth of damage) by a drunk with a fire extinguisher. After knocking out all my windows and denting as much of the body as he could he set off the fire extinguisher in my car. His finger prints were all over my car in the dust. When I called the cops (OSU cops) he walked around my car looked at my liscence plate and shook his head. I asked him if he was going to take prints. He said "Naw. You know you are from Michigan don't you?" Well the idiot was later caught trying to break into the chemistry building. Of course he was covered in dust. So they asked him if he did the job on my car and he said yes, becuase I was from Michigan. I know becuase I obtained the police report. Some good came of it though. It's one of the reasons why I started dating my wife. She offered to drive me around while my car was in the shop. A Buckeye is a poisonenous nut! Good story. It pisses me off, but good story. Half of the joy when Michigan beats OSU is the joy of knowing people like this are going out of their minds when they lose to Michigan. I went to a small school in Michigan near the Ohio border in the early nineties when OSU was a perenial NC team. A lot students were from Ohio. They would get all worked up during the year and go crazy when Michigan was ruining there title hopes every year. I was more like a sideline fan until then, and never really felt the importance of that game until i lived through it with people from Ohio. I left college a different fan of Michigan because of that damn game. We all had good fun with it, but never to the extent of being jerks to others like your story.