Both would be really stupid moves. Perspective guys. You know, I thought "is this a knee-jerk reaction"? But we've been like this all year. In fact we've arguably been inconsistent like this since last year. Add some killer injuries on top of it, and you've got the problem we're experiencing now. We gotta make a change somewhere, even if its just to do it. Lou is stressing the right things and supposedly has a firm grasp on the clubhouse. He may make some head scratching decisions on the field from time to time but basically he turned a 66 win team into an 85 win team and then an 85 win team into a 97 win team. He has also become a semi-face of the franchise and is just as marketable to the team as most of the players. He's going nowhere. You can make a better case for Perry, but he is largely credited from turning one of the least patient teams in baseball into the most patient. And during his tenure we have seen mostly unheralded prospects come up and contribute to the club. I mean, I just don't see how they deserve to be fired less than 25% into the season. Given what they've done the last 2 seasons, and given the turnover between last year and this year, the turmoil that has surrounded this season so far, and the injuries, I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt for at least a little while. Also, while firing people can give the team a spark and get them to step up and play better, they could also start to feel the pressure and play tightly. We all remember how the Cubs did the last 2 Octobers when the pressure started to weigh on the team.