UMFan83

If you just wanted to say the Metrodome sucks you should have just said that and left out the first sentence. No one would disagree. It doesn't even make sense the way you put them together. And in case you hadn't noticed, they've kind of been trying to get a stadium for a long time. The game should be in Minnesota because a home game was scheduled, there's a viable alternative in town and ticket holders should be able to see the last two games of the year that they paid for. The 50th anniversary stuff is what seals the deal for wanting it at TCF instead of Detroit. Why not move it to Milwaukee? My teams certainly seem to do well when their games get randomly relocated there.

When they make a trophy commemorating the most inexplicable loss of the Big Ten season. What did Zook have to do with Iowa losing to Minnesota?

There is 1 spot for 3 teams (technically 3 spots for 5) basically. Here are the games where 1 of those 5 teams interact with the other TB: None NYG: Phi, @ GB Phi: @NYG GB: NYG, CHI Chi: @ GB The Eagles and Bears have 4 losses, the Giants (if losing tonight), Packers and Bucs 5. None of the 3 teams fighting for the last wild card spot need to win out to get to 10 wins, so they all have a cushion of losing 1 or 2 games and still getting to 10 wins. I'm probably not explaining it right, but I feel like you must have calculated something incorrectly. I will leave open the possibility that I am just not comprehending you correctly though. I have respected your probability work enough in the past to know that I could be wrong here, but it doesn't seem like it.

wouldnt there be an outcry if Rodgers was allowed to play the very next week after 2 different concussions this year?

I don't know what you mean by that...I just pretty easily came up with a scenario where 2 10-6 teams miss the playoffs. Week 15: DET over TB NYG over PHI MIN over CHI GB over NE ATL over SEA NO over BAL Week 16: TB over SEA NYG over GB PHI over MIN CHI over NYJ ATL over NO Week 17: TB over NO WAS over NYG PHI over DAL GB over CHI ATL over CAR This would put the Giants, Bears and Bucaneers all at 10-6 with only the giants getting in. If I switch the result of the week 15 Eagles/Giants game, I get the 10-6 Bucs over the 10-6 Bears. Some of the results are not completely likely but I wouldn't say its close to 0 percent chance.

If GB loses to NE and the Giants, the Bears still win the division with just the Jets game. I just corrected that. I was thinking in terms of tiebreakers at the time, when I started talking about something else.

Yeah 2 wins and we win the division. Win 1 and it depends on which game we win. If we win the Minnesota game, any GB loss gives us the division If our only win is the Jets game, GB must lose to Patriots and Giants to win division. According to the ESPN playoff scenario, any tie where we don't beat Minnesota or GB, GB wins the tiebreaker. If our only win is the Packers game, we win the division with no other help. As far as wild card, we have the following teams/entities fighting for 1 spot. 1. CHI/GB loser (9-4/8-5) 2. PHI/NYG loser (9-4/8-4) 3. TB (8-5) I am assuming NO pretty much has a playoff spot locked up but techincally they could lose out and be in big trouble. I'll go over every tiebreaking scenario just to make you tear your hair out. CHI and TB tie: TAMPA BAY (wins all tiebreakers) CHI and NYG tie: NEW YORK GIANTS CHI and Phi tie: CHICAGO CHI and TB and NYG tie: NYG (83% of scenarios), TB (17% of scenarios), CHI (0%) CHI and TB and PHI tie: TB (100% of scenarios) The only tiebreaker that Chicago wins is straight up over Philly. All other WC tiebreaking scenarios are losers for Chicago (*there is a small chance Chicago can win the Vikings game and still not win the division, and because of the small chance I didn't actually see if it changed anything to have Chicago win over Minnesota instead of the Jets...it might have in the 3 team scenarios but if Chicago beats minnesota and GB wins out, whatever) I don't care about the ties for GB or whoever else.

No I'm pretty sure it is. That gives us a 2 game lead with 2 to play and we win on the tiebreaker if it ends in a tie. It is true. I just wanted to throw everyone off since we answered that a couple of times earlier in the last few pages. Sorry I'm in a sarcastic kind of mood.

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Should have told Notre Dame we would call the trophy the Parseghian-Rockne Trophy if they'd join the conference.

Isn't University of Chicago still typically a member in an academic sense due to being a member in the CIC?

I think it's dumb to have JoePa's name on the trophy when A) He's still alive and still an active Big 10 coach, and B) He spent the large majority of his career coaching outside the Big 10, and won all his championships before joining the conference.

Well yeah the theme works, but who the heck decided there needed to be a theme between the division names and the end of the year trophies?

Same here. Who can remember these moments from September: -The dropped fly ball in the bermuda triangle during that game in San Jose that blew the game. -Blowing a 9-4 lead to the Pirates in the first game of a doubleheader, but winning 10-9 -Getting shut down by Ryan [expletive] Vogelsong in that game series. -Prior pretty much winning every game he pitched handily. To the point where everyone considered it a win when he was scheduled to pitch. -The Shawn Estes game of course. -Losing to Cincinnati 1-0 with Zambrano pitching a gem (9 IP 4H, 1 ER on a 2 out bloop single) -The Cubs getting rained out the final Friday of the season, and watching a 68 win Brewers team score 9 runs in the first 2 innings to destroy the Astros, bringing the magic number down to 3. -Of course the doubleheader sweep to clinch the division.

BUT MICHIGAN AND PENN STATE WIN 10 GAMES EVERY YEAR!!! Plus you have to split Indiana and Purdue up since they are historically the two best basketball schools in the Big Ten. Please tell me this crap doesnt carry over to basketball. I could have sworn there were no divisions in basketball. I don't think they do, but I wanted to rehash that old comedy gem.

BUT MICHIGAN AND PENN STATE WIN 10 GAMES EVERY YEAR!!! Plus you have to split Indiana and Purdue up since they are historically the two best basketball schools in the Big Ten.

Do you think Delaney created those names while barhopping last weekend at sports bars with the same name, or do you think he stole them from the names of the two conference rooms at the Mariott he was staying at?

"And Wisconsin with the big win over Penn State, staking claim to 1st place in the Big Ten Leaders Division"

The Legends Division and the Leaders Division. Are you kidding? Yay I hope Michigan can finish at the top of the Legends Division next season.

Don't you get it? The logo can say B10 or BIG or BIGTEN or B10TEN

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6442/big10conflogo.png

I hated the Soriano signing and thought we could do better than someone with a .836 career OPS for our LF vacancy. And then factoring in that he was getting $17 million a year for that career .836 OPS and I was pretty upset.

If the Bears only plan on winning 1 game the rest of the year, this one should be it.

Yup, we were talking about it a page or two ago.

Yeah it's just too bad the Rams don't have a shot in hell of beating the Saints. They could play 10 on 11 and it wouldnt change the outcome.