I think its one of those things where they have a lot of talent but don't play up to potential. I know a lot of people had them as favorites after they got Nash. And then yeah the randomness of short season leads people to believe they are more dangerous than their record. I'd still rather play them than Boston, and probably the Penguins. The more I think about the Penguins though the more I think they can be beaten by a puck possession team with good defenders, but they are certainly formidable.