UMFan83

Sooo back to talking Cubs in the Cubs thread Miggy reads mean tweets: http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago/cubs/post/_/id/40433/miguel-montero-reads-mean-tweets-from-fans

World Series - Indians (kill Year of Cleveland thing)

So LaStella isn't mad, he's just a horsefeathering weird guy

Dammit DL him for 6 days and bring back Grimm

@ChiCubsMagicNum on Twitter. It's at 40 right now pending Cards result

Yeah my concern was just that the next time we need to use him in a close game he's rusty. But then again we have 100% playoff odds so who cares?

Can't remember but I'm guessing that the division will be a near lock when the WC is clinched so we'd probably wait to celebrate. Then again this is a team that likes to celebrate so much they built an official party room in their clubhouse so horsefeathers it they will go nuts for both.

Yes but the Pirates are winning so they may keep lingering at 13.5 back. Pesky Pirates just won't go away

Seems strange but I mean ok. It's great that things are going so well that "not pitching 2nd best reliever enough" is the biggest gripe

Ok now 8 days since Rondon has pitched and still Strop is the one warming up in pen

I feel like Lackey always gives up at least 1 run in the 1st inning lately.

Did he give Z a black guy as a parting gift?

The Cubs traded him in November. I agree though, despite this Z is cool and was my favorite player for most of the 00s Damn was it only November? I thought Theo pretended to give him a chance to make amends or whatever for longer than that. My bad I googled wrong. He was traded in January

lol you and jersey and sometimes David somehow get me so frustrated at times it drives me nuts. Which is hypocritical because this sort of attitude and mockery is what I love about this board. I guess it's just less fun when the gun is pointed at you. I love you all just the same

The Cubs traded him in November. I agree though, despite this Z is cool and was my favorite player for most of the 00s

You guys are ridiculous. Just answer the question and move on. I never said he wasn't welcome and comparing why a paid employee is there vs a retired former player is almost as weird as the Billy Williams comparison. Let's move on and talk about Seal Boy going awol

And most of them turned over since Billie Williams left as well. Sports team alumni return without current personal relationships being the reason. Yeah, that was a really weird tangent, even for UMFan. How is that weird? I'm just wondering what connections Z still has with the Cubs. I'm not saying he's not welcome. It was more a comment on how much the entire org has changed since he left. Also I'll take jerseys overall point but Billy Williams is a really strange example considering he's a Hall of Famer who has been synonymous with the Cubs as long as I can remember while Z is non HOF guy that left on bad terms less than 5 years ago.

This is a ridiculous question. Ok? I'm just saying who does Z even know in the Cubs org anymore. It feels like the whole org turned over since he left.

I have nothing again Z, I used to love him before he did some dumb stuff. Heck I used to walk my dog by his town home during the season hoping to bump into him (never did). My question is, who keeps letting Z come into the Cubs locker room? I feel like the large majority of players and FO employees have turned over since he left. I guess Lester Strode and Hank White let him come in? Maybe Randy Bush (is he still w the Cubs)?

If you ever liked seal boy for any period of time that's on you bro

Well plus I'm sure Maddon intended on calling him up the first time a position player was needed and worse case on September 1st. I'm guessing his intention was still to include him on the playoff roster barring a major outburst from Coghlan. And I'm sure he articulated this to LaStella when he was sent down.

I remember when that trade happened I was mildy excited because I had heard of him. Looking at his pre-Bears numbers now, what the horsefeathers were we thinking? And then we tried to follow that up by using another 1st on Cade McNown who was an even bigger bust.

I don't know. There is a lot fundamentally wrong with the organization, but in terms of on the field results, over the past 11 seasons we've made 3 playoff appearances with a Super bowl and another conference championship appearance, had 3 other seasons where we either tied for a playoff spot at 10-6 or needed to win in week 17 to get in and didn't, and another year where we started 7-3 and surging toward the playoffs when Cutler went down for the year. that leaves only 2007, 2009, 2014 and 2015 as completely lost years. And overall, I am a believer in Pace and think that we are on the right path (although this is a big year to know for sure). All I'm saying is that yes there are a lot of stupid backwards things about this organization and yes its stupid to have to use "but they almost made the playoffs 4 other times" as an argument, but there have been several teams that would be a lot worse to follow over the last decade plus than the Bears. I absolutely love how down you can get about every other team your root for but are upbeat about a mediocre (at best) Bears team the past decade. I'm up or down about all my teams depending on when you ask me although I'm sure 90% negative UMfan from like 8 years ago still resonates with you (and not the....55% negative UMfan now :) ). And you are putting words in my mouth Raisin, I am not "upbeat" about the Bears, I said that the last decade of Bears football has not been terrible enough to be tempted to root for another team. There's no doubt the org has been shitty and the results on the field have not been acceptable, but its not like being a Browns fan where the season is over pretty much every year by early October. I have had reasons to watch Bears football in December in 7 of the last 11 seasons. I like Pace so far and think he is steering the ship in the right direction. So still shitty dysfunctional org, mildly compelling past, optimistic future, not a really a team I or anyone else should feel compelled to bail on.

Non-Schwarber perfection

Yeah outside of his 3 year peak, he was worth about 4 wins combined the other 10 seasons of his career.