That's the mid-year of their fifth season. Don't hurt yourself bending over to set the bar that low. Come on, we don't need to go through all that [expletive] again. If we're a consistent playoff team from 2016 moving forward, I'm happy enough. With the only caveat being if we don't win a WS during the regime, it's still a failure to me. Apparently we *do* need to go through it again. We really don't. If they set us up and we make the playoffs 5 times in a 10 year period, maybe 6, I'm not complaining. Especially since we'll likely not have a fall off after that either and there's no guarantee this group isn't here longer than 10 as it is. Do you mean 5 times out of 13 or 5 times out of 10?