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This. I, for one, do not miss the days of desperate hopes of guys like Eric Jokisch, Wes Darvill, Jae Hoon Ha, and Robert Whitenack could blossom into serviceable-ish big leaguers. Damn, I remember being legitimately geeked up over Robert Whitenack. Didn't he have an amazing High A or Double A out of nowhere, then injury the next year, and gone forever?
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Heard that on my way home. I think they said he had an offer from the Bears, then they signed CJ Wilson. Prediction: RJF will be a "Cardinals style" stud for the Packers this year.
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Browns take Lattimore, though I considered RB Cook, EDGE Charlton, even Jabril Peppers for SS, but it seems pretty high for him.
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Not sure what to do here for the Browns. Lattimore would be BPA at this point, but Cleveland actually has two decent starters there. More need for a starter at QB, TE, S, but none seem to merit this high of a pick (was hoping Howard would be here).
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Buffalo needs a QB badly. Too high for that pick here? Kizer, Mahomes, who am I missing?
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Have you seen this article by one of the Browns FO? https://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/how-to-value-nfl-draft-picks/ The old chart that everyone looks at originates from Jimmy Johnson's days at Dallas. This puts the #3 pick at 2200 points. #1 is 3000. You're all aware of this one. For example, look at a Jet's trade up to 3 #3 = #6 + #38 + #102 1, 3, 4 to move up 3 spots The new one in the link could been seen as the Brown's chart. The implication is that top picks are highly overvalued and mid-round picks are undervalued. #3 is the Browns chart is 401 points. #3 = #6 + #166 (or #134 if it takes a slight premium) 1, 5 or 6 A more extreme example might be seen by trading further down in Round 1. Let's use the Broncos at pick 20. They have a lot of mid round picks that will make matching up values easier. Regular Chart #3 = 20 + 52 + 80 + 101 + 126 + 177 + 203 + 252 + 253 + still short by 600 points OR #3 = 20 + 52 or 80 + 2018 1st round pick Browns Chart #3 + 131 (5th rounder) = 20 + 51 + 101 It would be pretty fascinating to see each team's chart.
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http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5122/ricky-jean-francois Bears just heavily attended Deshaun Watson's pro-day. Now meeting wiith another DL. Nobody will mistake signing Francois for drafting, Allen, but it's fun to try to connect the dots.
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http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/12132/leonard-fournette Who wants to trade past JAX to draft Fournette? Give me a trade down partner, somebody
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Titans selected Jamal Adams, S, LSU
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Going once, twice, Allen Jacksonville is on the clock (who has JAX?)
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An immediate starter is needed at 5T and #1 CB. Either Allen or Lattimore is what I think Pace will do. I don't see anyone trading up for this pick
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I think that was Jaso from the Pirates. Awesome play. Jaso was so irritated after the play Jankowski from San Diego. I buy that. Do they both have stupid hair or just Jaso?
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I think that was Jaso from the Pirates. Awesome play. Jaso was so irritated after the play
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I love listening to those announcers
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I think that's probably good for Hall. He doesn't have great speed, but I like his long arms in deep jump balls. In college he played some LB (rover) in addition to S and CB, so he is probably pretty interchangable for SS/FS.
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If we are the Browns want to talk to NSB Belichick
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Browns take Myles Garrett
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So he hit that at least how far, 430?! I'd guess 450. It hit 20+ feet high at 410
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When I read the Rotoworld report on Cooper it made me think he would not be a starter. But the contract makes me think he is. Does Porter have experience in the slot? I don't see how they cut him with their current CB roster. They have a ton of depth guys to sort through, but not enough starter caliber talent to dump him.
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I would do any combination of 12+extra picks. If it was 33, 65 I would just go true BPA on 12, 33, 36, 52, 67 targeting #1 WR (maybe Corey Davis), #1 CB (lots of options), 5T, TE, QB, S. Maybe something like 12 - WR - Davis/Williams 33 - CB - Gareon Conley 36 - 5T - Malik McDowell 52 - TE - Evan Engram 67 - S - Desmond King OR 12 - 5T - Jon Allen 33 - WR - Curtis Samuel 36 - CB - Marlon Humphrey 52 - QB - Mahomes/Webb/Peterman 67 - TE - Jordan Leggett
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So roster is this at the moment: QB - Glennon, Shaw, ________ RB - Howard, Langford, Karey FB - Lasike T - Leno, Massie, Compton G - Sitton, Long, Kush C - Whitehair, Grasu TE - Miller, Sims, Brown/Pruitt/Braunecker/_______ WR 1 - Meredith, Bellamy/_______ WR 2 - White, Addison/Anderson/Randle/_______ Slot - Wright, Wheaton/Braverman (Royal rumored to be cut) 5T - Hicks, Unrein, Sutton/Lewis-Moore NT - Goldman, Ferguson 5T - _______, Bullard OLB - McPhee, Young, Floyd, Houston, Robertson-Harris ILB - Freeman, Trevathan, Kwiatkowski, Anderson, Jones, Timu CB 1 - Amukamara, Cooper CB 2 - Porter, Hall, Fuller, McManis/Banks/Bausby/Glenn/Reynolds Nickel - Callahan, LeBlanc S - Demps, Amos, Jones-Quartey, Hurst, Bush, Houston-Carson ST - Scales, O'Donnell, Barth Biggest 2017 needs: #1 5T #1 WR #1 CB/CB Upgrade TE Upgrade FS Upgrade T Upgrade #2 NT
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What would you take to swap spots with Jax to give them their choice? The famous draft chart says #4 + 2nd = #3 + 4th + 5th, but I can't see that happening. The other "Browns" chart shows the difference in value to be less than any draft pick. I'd think a 4th, maybe a 3rd at most.
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They just had a second meeting with Jonathan Allen. While I agree that CB seems out at 3, I don't think it means anything as far as taking a QB there either.....I think Allen(if they aren't scared by the arthritis) or Adams is much more likely than a QB myself.....Or a trade down, if remotely possible. And really like the Cooper move. Wonder if they're looking at Butler as a S? Patterson visited today too. I can't believe that they would risk another top pick by picking Allen who has known shoulder issues. In a vacuum, maybe you can say he's still the top talent and go with it. But after White's injuries and Floyd playing a half season it seems like a bad decision. They've seen the medicals, though, so maybe it's not that bad. If it's something that will be a problem 10 years from now, take Allen if you like him and don't look back.
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More of an inside/nickel I think. They're clearly still active on DBs which is interesting considering the draft depth and our current depth. Wonder if Porter could be cut (~3m savings). Perhaps a Fuller trade for a late pick too. They seem to like LeBlanc amd Callahan even though both project as nickel/ST guys. And McManis has been a favorite for a long time as a ST contributor. Let's see... CB: Amukamara, Porter, Fuller, Hall, Callahan, LeBlanc, Glenn, Banks, McManis Safety: Demps, Amos, Jones-Quartey, Hurst, Bush, Houston-Carson
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Wtf @ their way of writing innings 68 0/100. Really horsefeathering weird. But exciting stuff nonetheless. Best case scenario for Cease is what? Start 2017 at Low-A, with a promotion to High-A? Then 2018 make it to Tennessee? 2019 big jump to MLB?