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i'm on the CINCINNATI BENGALS bandwagon

you think if we threw in z and prior they'd throw in mercker?

Adam Dunn hits his league-tying 32nd homer. sry derrek

I literally have about 200 Will Clark baseball cards!

will clark was one of my favorites growing up because i was too young to understand how horrible 1989 really was.

hopefully it's derrek lee so this season can have the ultimate heartbreaking ending

Yes. And Dawson was awesome. You had to be there. I did see him play, though I was a lad at the time. Believe me, at the time I thought he was amazing. Looking at his career stats, he was still very good, but the stats show he wasn't as awesome as I remembered. It's funny, too. When I was a kid, for whatever reason, I thought Shawon Dunston was absolutely awesome. Now when I look at his stats, I realize he was pretty terrible. I'm talking even worse than Neifi levels of bad. But as a kid, I thought he was the best shortstop in the world. If I had the baseball knowledge I have now while watching in those days, I would have hated Dunston a lot.

I'd also like to add that Barry Larkin better get in the HOF since Ozzie is in. (and to be fair, he should also get in since Ryno got in)

If Lawton gets 50, then maybe finally Ohman can 0 for his jersey number.

Why do you say that Edmonds is better than Griffey? Over their careers they have remarkably similar numbers. Or were you just talking about present day? Present day. It's unwise to only take snapshots and base one's opinions on a player's effectiveness by ignoring production stats and projecting what may be, rather than what is. If this wasn't true, Kerry Wood with his small BA against would be highly regarded, rather than the over-priced, oft-injured bum that he is. Edmonds is an above average CF, not HOF material. He is no Andruw Jones or Griffey, Jr. though. Additionally, open criticism from one's teammates undermines the team's attitude and eventually their success. Edmonds makes some wonderful catches, but also showboats. His fellow players said that Edmonds at times was more interested in getting on Sportscenter than anything else. Compare Andruw's and Jim's career stats. What exactly is it that makes Andruw so much better than Jim? Jim has him beaten in nearly every offensive category. Andruw is a superior defender, I won't deny that, but it isn't so much better that it negates Jim's superior offense.

It really depends. I don't think it's necessarily a horrible idea to re-sign Burnitz to 1 more reasonable 1 year deal if we upgrade elsewhere.

we shouldn't be talking about this! back to vance being on tv. wtg vance. why'd you shave your goatee? every pic i've seen of you, you had a goatee.

After re-examining the stats, Andruw Jones is having a better season than Edmonds. But Edmonds is still doing better than Griffey.

Why do you say that Edmonds is better than Griffey? Over their careers they have remarkably similar numbers. Or were you just talking about present day? Present day.

Please show me any article that even hints that any of Andre Dawson's teammates called him anything less than a professional. You can't find it. While SI had stories of how Edmonds' Angels teammates criticized him a great deal. Look it up. I checked with Baseball-Reference and found they compare Dawson's career numbers with players like Billy Williams, Tony Perez, Dave Parker, Al Kaline.. They compare Edmonds to Shawn Green, Tim Salmon, Jason Giambi and Wally Berger. Please feel free to begin your own 'Wally Berger for the HOF' thread today. You can't ignore the Andre's career stats, All-Star selections and other accomplishments. Again I don't know if that is HOF material, but Edmonds is clearly not better than Andruw Jones, Griffey Jr. and they play CF in the NL. Not sorry. I wasn't trying to say Dawson wasn't professional. I was saying it was a completely meaningless post. Teammates didn't get along with Edmonds? Who cares, it's baseball. It means relatively little. THE Dave Parker?! Wow! And for the record, none of those players mentioned in comparison with Dawson, with the exception of Williams, are overwhelmingly hall worthy, in my opinion. And yes, Edmonds is better than Andruw Jones and Griffey Jr.

Well, I'm certainly not getting my hopes up. It'd be nice if it happened though.

i saw jody gerut start in rf and looking back he was my favorite cub of all time too

wtg vance you did da lounge proud

i dont know how you can say that with any certainty i dont think dawson should be in the hall, and i couldve sworn he was a cub Well you can apply most of their arguments against Ozzie's worthiness to Sandberg and see that they fit him pretty well too. Yet they don't seem to have a problem with him in the Hall. Except Ozzie never put up offensive numbers like Ryno did.

The only thing Edmonds has over Andre is that he wears eye makeup. My Jimmy, you look so cute. Andre was an MVP of the NL. Edmonds hasn't been close. Andre has far more HR, RBI, etc.. than Edmonds. Andre had more speed and used it for more SB. Andre was a feared OF who would throw you out with his great arm. Andre was selected for 8 All-Star Games, Edmonds a mere 4. Andre's teammates NEVER accused him of showboating flyballs or being a cancer in the clubhouse. Edmonds wore both lables quite well. Little wonder the Angels won the WS after Edmonds was dealt. I don't know if Andre deserves the Hall of Fame, but Edmonds is clearly not the premier CF in the NL..let alone HOF material. Not sorry. -Andre's MVP year was for a last place team, and while his season was good, it wasn't MVP worthy. He only got it because of RBI. Stastically, Edmonds' 2004 was a hell of a lot better than Dawson's MVP season. -Edmonds has a far better career OBP, AVG, SLG, and obviously OPS. Please further elaborate your "etc." you used in that post. -Uh oh! More stolen bases! Who cares? -Edmonds has a great arm too. His arm is "feared" too. -And up until now, Abreu's been in 2 all star games. I'm not impressed by number of All Star appearances. -I guess you were in the clubhouse for all of Dawson's teams then. Talk about your meaningless points, Jesus. -The Marlins won the World Series the year after Dawson retired. Coincidence? Yes. Just like it's a coincidence the Angels won after Edmonds left. Sorry.

What an idiot. He could have gotten away with using steroids in the past if he stopped now. Say goodbye to the HOF now.

Jim Edmonds is better than Andre Dawson. Sorry.

If you're the Reds GM, what realistic chance do you have at signing Dunn when he becomes a free agent? If you're the Reds GM, how much money do you want Dunn taking up when resources are limited?

so what? Things were better in his day. I guess that's your opinion. Personally, I think baseball is better now.