cubfan1955

See the quote? What don't you understand about the part that reads "get through 5 innings in under 100 pitches"? I never said he couldn't get out of the 5th inning but that he has a high pitch count through 5 innings. I see it and the implication was that neither could go deep into games. As I said earlier, it isn't as big of a concern because the Cubs have a better bullpen than they've had in recent history. I agree with that. That alone should make Wood and Prior better off. Still though, without Lee, the rest of this team has to be almost perfect and injury free to have a chance. Could it happen? Sure it could...but since when does anything go the Cubs way?

See the quote? What don't you understand about the part that reads "get through 5 innings in under 100 pitches"? I never said he couldn't get out of the 5th inning but that he has a high pitch count through 5 innings.

What's the cubs record? Last I checked, it was 9-5. I also don't understand people believing we're going to get anything out of Wood, Prior, and Miller right off the bat. Prior was healthy last year and while not horrible he was lucky to get through 5 innings in under 100 pitches. And Wood has always been that way. Losing DLee is bad but there's no reason to exaggerate the problems and prospects for improvement. Wood has not "always" had problems getting out of the 5th inning. From 2001-03 he averaged just about 200 IP. Also, Prior wasn't completely healthy last year. I don't expect that the pitchers will return with the ability to go 7 innings right away. The difference is this year's bullpen is less likely to surrender leads late. Wood, Prior, and Miller will be an improvement on the current rotation. I was referring to Woods high pitch count, not getting out of the 5th inning. It seems to me that they aren't mutually exclusive. A high pitch count would prevent a pitcher from going deep into a game. In either case, your assertion hasn't always been true for Wood. No, it means when Wood goes deep into a game he throws an excessive amount of pitches. And he throws a LOT of pitches when he doesn't go deep into a game. Check out the number one and two pitchers in pitch counts in 2003, their last healthy year.

What's the cubs record? Last I checked, it was 9-5. I also don't understand people believing we're going to get anything out of Wood, Prior, and Miller right off the bat. Prior was healthy last year and while not horrible he was lucky to get through 5 innings in under 100 pitches. And Wood has always been that way. Losing DLee is bad but there's no reason to exaggerate the problems and prospects for improvement. Wood has not "always" had problems getting out of the 5th inning. From 2001-03 he averaged just about 200 IP. Also, Prior wasn't completely healthy last year. I don't expect that the pitchers will return with the ability to go 7 innings right away. The difference is this year's bullpen is less likely to surrender leads late. Wood, Prior, and Miller will be an improvement on the current rotation. I was referring to Woods high pitch count, not getting out of the 5th inning.

What's the cubs record? Last I checked, it was 9-5. Check back in two weeks. I want to believe. I just don't. Sorry. :cry: We are going to miss Lee's defense more than people think. With his height and wide wing span he routinely catches balls that are going to be in the first base stands with anyone else over there not to mention the balls he scoops out of the dirt. Teams are going to have to issue catchers masks to the spectators behind first base for the forseeable future. Oh yeah, he's pretty good fielding batted balls too. I also don't understand people believing we're going to get anything out of Wood, Prior, and Miller right off the bat. Prior was healthy last year and while not horrible he was lucky to get through 5 innings in under 100 pitches. And Wood has always been that way. And even with an upcoming schedule that doesn't appear to be a that tough, when have the Cubs shown any signs of being able to beat the bad teams regularly? I agree. The world isn't about to end. It's baseball. Not life or death.

Lee is out. Pagan is out. Ramirez and Jones have already missed time. Eyre is injured. Miller, Wood and Prior are all on the DL. Ramirez is one tweaked muscle away from joining DLee on the DL. How does that Cub lineup look with both Aram and DLee not in it? Everyone should keep watching though because it isn't everyday you get to witness a trainwreck like the one you're going to get to see shortly. It's going to get ugly very quick... On the plus side we will get a boffo draft pick in June 2007. :twisted:

CUBS WIN!!! CUBS WIN!!! CUBS WIN!!!

Worse? I thought it was pretty sweet. I was disappointed when the Milwaukee manager held him out of the last week of games so Hernandez didn't break the SO record. That was weak. Just let the guy break it. I remember the Brewers fans were cheering him on and wanted him to get the record. I agree and Jose should be ticked off. His one chance to get into the MLB record books and he wasn't given the chance.

Worse? I thought it was pretty sweet.

i'll take the quality start. And boy am i pissed i traded Craig Wilson on my fantasy team before the season started :x I'm glad I started Zach Duke yesterday. Yea, I said it. Me too. :D

What happened? 3-run shot to Jack Wilson. Wasn't it Craig Wilson? Yes.

That's the Glendon we know and love. :cry:

Once again... Choi for Lee? :D

Time to put this game away with DLee and Aram up with 2 on no one out.

Your Mom owns the team. :D

Nope. He's still bad.

I don't think Steve Trout did either. Nope, 13 was his biggest year. Ellsworth is the answer.

Holtzman never it did it.

Glendon getting through three innings unscored upon is perfect to me.

Wasn't Rolen injured in a collision with Choi last year? How is that "chronic"? Aramis is the definition of a "chronic" injury. Is there a muscle below his shoulder that he hasn't tweaked or pulled yet? If they are both healthy I'd take Aramis. If I was to base it on their past health issues I'd go with Rolen. My guess is that Rolen will play more games this year than Aramis who is out today with his tweaked ass.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/images/2006/01/10/wS72X42T.jpg You are NOT Andruw or Chipper?

Or maybe as an adult he knows what is best for himself. The coaching didn't seem to help last summer so why would it over the winter? I can see him thinking he needed to get away from baseball and clear his mind.

He can't stay healthy for even a half year. He makes Wood look like an iron man. (Not knocking Wood, he's one of my favorite players.) He needs to do something pretty soon to justify his spot on the 40 man roster.

Guzman has been around for awhile now. He was slated to come up and take Priors spot in 2003 and only didn't because he got injured.

I'd agree Hill is vastly overrated but don't agree he needs to be worked in as a regular in 2006. I don't want Hill anywhere near the Cubs rotation as he throws nothing more than batting practice fodder. It is time for Guzman to either pitch or go away. Pie, after the CPatt debacle, I'm not in favor of bringing him up until after Dusty Baker is gone...hopefully around the All-Star break.