minnesotacubsfan

I think they decided that they HAD to have a QB that offseason and all the ones in the draft were garbage so he used his 1st rounder on him. But obviously like you said, he flat out sucked in 4 seasons with Seattle. If they weren't trading him, they had to be strongly thinking about flat out cutting him, he was that bad. This is not hindsight, I remember this being universally panned immediately afterwards. But anyways you could write a whole book with stories of the Bears choosing or signing the wrong guy at QB. I'm so unbelievably frustrated with it and I'm close to my breaking point as a Bears fan. Like I've always complained about not having good QBs, but I've always felt at least a small amount of hope that we'd somehow luck into one. I don't feel that anymore and its eating away at me as a fan. It doesn't help that Michigan is having similar issues putting together a competent QB/offense and really making me question why I follow football outside of my fantasy team. Seems nearly impossible, regardless of the front office they've unable to find a QB guess that leaves lucking into one chances of which are slim to none. eh, they had Cutler, he was decent. unfortunately he was just overshadowed by GB pulling HOF QB's out of thin air. I think the key for the Bears is they simply have to take a "quantity is quality" approach and draft qb's nearly every year until they find one that can stick. I don't mean in the 1st every year either, but in any round where they find someone who has potential and makes sense for that round (ie, not a reach).

That '97 team was fun to look up. Mirer started 3 games(games 4-6) en route to an 0-7 start. After sitting at 1-10, tied with the Colts for worst record in the NFL, they'd close the season 3-2, chasing down the Cardinals, Chargers, and Raiders, dropping to the 5th overall pick(while losing the 4 way tiebreaker at 4-12)...which they used on Curtis Enis. Who, besides Ryan Leaf, turned out to be the worst player in the top ten of the 98 draft. I remember being extremely puzzled by Wannstedt trading for Mirer. he flat out sucked and I couldn't figure out why he HAD to be the guy

my point had more to do with the idea that there will be LOTS of crappy teams drafting before the Bears do and that will deplete the QB market by the time they draft. Unless the bears lose out, then they might have a shot at the 3rd or 4th best QB in the draft, ie table scraps I can see Pace trading up already Maybe the approach needs to start with the OL instead of a QB, yeah Mitch sucks but, Pace patch work garbage OL's aren't helping. I think it depends on where they draft. If they can get the BYU or NDSU QB, I think they have to do it. But if both are gone, then yes draft OL, best available, and take a flier in the later rounds on a guy like JT Daniels if he comes out. but they also need more offensive weapons. A guy like Bateman could be a great pick in the mid to late 1st.

that was a weird dbl post

he drove a used toyota camry. pace liked his modesty I woke up this morning thinking on the bright side, if the bears tank the rest of the season they have a legit shot at a QB in the 1st round worth drafting. Then I remembered that the NFC East existed and now I'm depressed again Well, the Cowboys probably won't draft a QB in Rd 1 even with Dak returning from a bad injury. Giants may stick with Daniel Jones. Eagles could be in the market, or could believe Wentz still has enough. Gotta root for Washington to win that division and thus pick behind the Bears. my point had more to do with the idea that there will be LOTS of crappy teams drafting before the Bears do and that will deplete the QB market by the time they draft. Unless the bears lose out, then they might have a shot at the 3rd or 4th best QB in the draft, ie table scraps I can see Pace trading up already

You'd think that they'd accidentally get it right at least once. But no, 23 years ago they traded a 1st round pick for a QB that was legitimately awful his first 4 years in the league and now today they are still making terrible decisions in the face of better options. (to be fair, the 97 draft was historically awful for QBs, I believe the best one taken was Plummer but still doesn't excuse targeting that dude with your first round pick) I was thinking along the same lines, how did the Bears manage to draft the worst starting QB AGAIN. It's got to be something beyond scouting, there has to be some other factor. I was looking at a mock draft last week and noticed they had Mac Jones being drafted in the first round. I thought to myself, "who the horsefeathers would draft Mac Jones in the 1st?" and then realized the mock had the Bears doing so. makes total sense really.

I forgot how much they paid for Chase Daniel. The same year the Bears signed Daniel to that 2 year/$10MM contract, Ryan Fitzpatrick signed with the Bucs for i year/$3MM. But you can do that with that entire list of qbs. They overpaid for Glennon when they could have gotten Case Keenum (among others) for half the price. They traded up for Mitch when they could have traded down for Watson or Mahomes (or Mitch). They spent a draft pick and a ton of cash for Foles when they could have gotten guys like Dalton or Bridgewater for just cash. And none of this is 20/20 hindsight. People were saying these things at the time they were happening. its stunning, in all of professional sports, the Bears are the WORST at evaluating the most important position predicating the teams success, and they've been the worse at doing so for horsefeathering decades

he drove a used toyota camry. pace liked his modesty I woke up this morning thinking on the bright side, if the bears tank the rest of the season they have a legit shot at a QB in the 1st round worth drafting. Then I remembered that the NFC East existed and now I'm depressed again

3 seems light

Beating GB tonight would be the biggest upset of Nagys career. GO BEARS

I wouldn't call it a typo with the clown show the bears are right now

Elway!

I mean, they're both equally wet and stinky turds and Foles is already under contract for next year while Trubisky isn't. and that would be THE ONLY REASON for keeping him over resigning Trubisky but dumping them both and signing a pile of straw would be a better choice. IDK, I never wanted Foles and hated the move from day one, and granted I'm done with Trubisky as well, I'd still rather have him to tie me over until our next complete and utter failure takes the reigns

I'd say the long-term interest of the franchise won't depend on or be affected by how he plays one way or another. whomever they draft next is likely to suck just as much Well what I had in mind was a total house cleaning Pace on down. According to rumors, that isn't going to happen either since the McCaskeys seem to have adopted Pace

I’d go so far as to say Mitch playing well isn’t in the long term interest of the franchise. I'd say the long-term interest of the franchise won't depend on or be affected by how he plays one way or another. whomever they draft next is likely to suck just as much

Mitch sucks, no doubt. The likelihood he ever amounts to an average starter has to hover somewhere around 0-10% That being said, in no universe is keeping Foles somehow a smarter move

Costs more to lose Foles than to keep him next year. Also, if you believe the rumors it sounds like Pace is pretty safe because the McKaskey family loves him. Then Foles can come in as the back up for a guy they draft or sign. If they draft a guy, Foles would serve better as a starter/mentor then a back up I'd rather Mitch lights up the scoreboard, gets a new 1-2 year deal while dropping Foles (despite the cost) and still drafting a high-ceiling qb

i'm a man of big dreams, i'd prefer a 2017 Nick Foles-ish type of run myself then he can disappear

Nagy, in his conference on the bears website today, said it likely would be an injury driven decision not that anyone can believe him nowadays

its Packers week? horsefeathers

you guys really misunderstand the federal landmarks program. the money cant be siphoned off to pay for political deals they'll use jersey and ticket sales for that

I'd keep the secondary intact, they are young and good. draft oline, find a taker for Smith, Hicks, and possibly Mack. Dump Travathian, Quinn. If you can draft the Lance, then try him. need a rb in the mid rounds, and a speed rusher, #1 wr next year Secondary isn't really that young. Skrine is 31. Gipson is 30 and a FA. Fuller will be 29 next year. And I don't know why the hell you'd trade Smith. This is his 3rd season and he's younger than all but 5 players on the team, and all 5 of them are rookies. He's a building block. Also, the big issue with blowing things up is that nobody wants Quinn and pay him 24Mil over the next 2 years guaranteed for his 1 sack of production. It would also cost the Bears more for him not to be on the team than it would to keep him. Also long shot that anyone wants a 30+ year old LB in Trevathan. I'm sure someone would take Mack, but you aren't getting anything near franchise changing for him. You're probably looking at a package similar to either of the Ngakoue trades (2nd/3rd and a 5th). I'd trade Smith because he might be worth the most of any of them outside of Mack and we need draft picks. As for he secondary, Skrine and Gipson specifically are not that critical in the secondary, if you want to find others to fill their rolls go for it. Fuller still plays at a high level, and Johnson and Jackson are studs. As a position group, they are probably the strongest and most likely to stay in tact moving forward based on their level of play and their ages. the quinn deal sucks, I didn't realize it costs more to cut him. Cut Danny outright

Thank you Theo! Best of luck!

sure, but its a slippery slope before you're just going to the opera

I'd keep the secondary intact, they are young and good. draft oline, find a taker for Smith, Hicks, and possibly Mack. Dump Travathian, Quinn. If you can draft the Lance, then try him. need a rb in the mid rounds, and a speed rusher, #1 wr next year