I read this last night when searching around for specific stats and information as well. I dismiss this for several reasons other than it's some guy giving his opinion on his fantasy blog This is a dumb dumb argument. Want to talk about sticking around into your twilight years to achieve impressive numbers? If Rickey Henderson hadn't stuck around for 25 seasons, two more than Raines, he never would've achieved 3,000 hits. He got to 3,000 hits in his 23rd year (infact his last hit of his 23rd year was his 3,000th). I mean if you're going to discredit a guy for sticking around well past your time to get impressive numbers, look no further than Rickey Henderson HARDLY IMPRESSIVE!?!?!? 354 stolen bases alone still puts you in the Top 100 of all time stolen base leaders. This guy acts like "Eh, big deal". So getting 354 stolen bases over a 17 year period isn't impressive, but you're also going to dismiss that he got 454 stolen bases within a 6 year period? 454 would put you in the Top 50 all time. And Raines got that in 6 years. This guy is trying to diminish what Raines accomplished by compiling his twilight year stats into the stats that mattered, his stats during which he was a dominant player in the 80's This is one of those comparisons where in 2006 you would say "Albert Pujols just scored 100 runs for the 6th time in his career" and someone would respond with "So, Brett Butler did that too, Pujols isn't special" Uhhhhh.... Rickey Henderson not only did that, but when he was cut from the major league team, he played baseball in the independent leagues. "Oh well he just has a passion for the game, that's different". Why? Because he's Rickey Henderson? Tim Raines didn't play 23 years because he loves the game? He did it because he wanted to beef up his HOF credentials? Henderson didn't do that by sticking around to get 3,000 hits? Here' a fun fact, Rickey Henderson played in 500 more games, yet had only 2,000 more AB than Raines, and had only 3,055 hits, 450 more than Raines had. Had Raines stuck around for two or three more years past his need, perhaps he could've finagled a a few 100 hit seasons and reached 3,000 hits, too. Or maybe if he hadn't been colluded against in the 80's, or played his rookie year in a strike shortened season, he wouldn't have had to. Then we wouldn't be having this debate. So many things worked against Raines' career numbers that should make what he accomplished even more impressive. Between the collusion, the strike, the Montreal turf, his cocaine addiction, and so on and so forth... the guy still put up pretty incredible numbers, and I don't think he should be discredited for that