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This is meaningless. Not entirely, no. All OBPs are driven by batting average, to some extent. Generally (and I know there are some exceptions) most guys who have very low batting averages and high OBPs have prodigious power. Since Cedeno and Theriot are both low-slugging players, they need a decent average to sustain their OBP. So, PingHitter is right -- Theriot's ability to hit for a higher average is useful here.

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Holy cow. Let's see what he does first. Soto could OPS anywhere from 700-820 and it wouldn't surprise me.

Good post.

So I'm dumb? Personal attack. Someone ban this guy. :rotfl: He made me feel bad!!!!!!!

So I'm dumb? Personal attack. Someone ban this guy.

What you're doing is excusing all of Hendry's past mistakes by saying he had to get Soriano. Hendry never had to get Soriano. This should have been a 90-win team years ago. If Hendry was any good at seeing the value of his assets, and could plan beyond today, he wouldn't have been in the position he was in when he grossly overpaid for Soriano. He could have easily fit Murton into a championship caliber team a long time ago if he wasn't just so incredibly incompetent. Instead, he throws good money after bad by continually forcing himself to cover up his own mistakes with bigger and more expensive ones. If it were up to the people on this board, the Cubs would have a $48 payroll.

Not for a championship-caliber team. I'm not going to go to the trouble of finding the stats because it's not worth my time, but that's just plain wrong. Why? He's a poor defender who doesn't hit right-handed pitching very well. He's a fine platoon guy or fourth OF, but no good team should want him getting 600 at bats.

Not for a championship-caliber team.

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That would have made you look cool.

GEOVANY SOTO.

What sort of high school has an 18-year reunion?

It's Jose Canseco. Did you expect Nabokov?

Everyone puts up huge numbers in the PCL. Big deal. Look at PCL stats from 2007, sort by OPS, and count the number of Shortstops ranked above Cedeno. Link Go here, and look at what Ronny Cedeno has done against major league pitching: http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/cedenro02.shtml

Doesn't Brian Roberts play baseball?

Bruce Miles said on a roundtable discussion at Hire Jim Essian that the Cubs promised to trade Murton when they signed Fukudome: http://hirejimessian.com/index.php/2008/03/25/preseason-round-table-part-i/

Everyone puts up huge numbers in the PCL. Big deal. Interesting Theriot sucks in any league. Ronny Cedeno sucks in the Majors. Neither help the Cubs. That's great. Theriot sucks at every level, including the majors. So the fact that he didn't hit better at Iowa than elsewhere is irrelevant. Cedeno hit well in rookie ball, very bad in A ball, below average at AA and outstanding at AAA and bad in the majors at age 23. So his stats at Iowa should be disregarded because "everyone puts up huge numbers in the PCL" - except people that suck, then they suck in the PCL too - except people who suck at some levels and are great at others, then they suck and their numbers are inflated... I'm lost. How do we know when to consider AAA numbers? When Ronny Cedeno doesn't suck. :roll: That was a fruitful little discussion. Speaking of fruitful... an eyeroll! . I don't know what there is to discuss. I said lots of players' numbers in the PCL are inflated, you showed me that Ryan Theriot's weren't. I don't see what that proved, because I'm still right: Lots of PCL numbers are inflated. Ronny would appear to be a case. I don't care that Cedeno has great minor league numbers, because he's had a lot of major-league at bats to show something. He hasn't shown anything. Major league pitchers keep getting him out with breaking balls and pitches out of the zone. He hasn't adapted. Seeing as how he's one of the dumbest baseball players I've ever seen, I don't see it changing. I know everyone around here loves Ronny, and good for all of you. I'm glad. But I'm not convinced, and I see no reason to argue about it any further.

Everyone puts up huge numbers in the PCL. Big deal. Interesting Theriot sucks in any league. Ronny Cedeno sucks in the Majors. Neither help the Cubs. That's great. Theriot sucks at every level, including the majors. So the fact that he didn't hit better at Iowa than elsewhere is irrelevant. Cedeno hit well in rookie ball, very bad in A ball, below average at AA and outstanding at AAA and bad in the majors at age 23. So his stats at Iowa should be disregarded because "everyone puts up huge numbers in the PCL" - except people that suck, then they suck in the PCL too - except people who suck at some levels and are great at others, then they suck and their numbers are inflated... I'm lost. How do we know when to consider AAA numbers? When Ronny Cedeno doesn't suck.

Everyone puts up huge numbers in the PCL. Big deal. Interesting Theriot sucks in any league. Ronny Cedeno sucks in the Majors. Neither help the Cubs.

Everyone puts up huge numbers in the PCL. Big deal.

I'll eat a shoe if Felix slugs over .500 this season.