a little over 70 miles So it's akin to saying that North Tejas is in Dallas or Tejas A&M is in Houston, I see. it's far enough west that it's not even considered a suburb anymore There's nothing but 70 miles of pasture and trees between College Station and Houston. Did you really think TAMU was in Houston? You do realize that it's about 60 miles from Houston to Galveston, right? i was agreeing with you. I'm saying NIU is in no way Chicago