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I don't think you're paying attention to what I'm writing. I want to keep Milton. I see nothing good coming from forcing him out via trade. I just think your "one week on the bench punishment" is kind of silly and I was offering that up as the likely reason for the other posters "Milton Bradley on the bench is the worst option" post. -
somebody start the Ravens game thread, I'm sick of doing it every week, and want to talk about the Bears being 10 point underdogs.
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His arbitration price is going to be skewed by the "closer label" so it makes perfect sense for a small market team (or any team) not to pay extra for a reliever just because his numbers are accompanied by save totals.
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I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with, but I am going to assume it's the statement about stewing on the bench all year being the worst thing. And I'm guessing that is in response to your comment that any bad words from Milton will be met with a week on the bench, which would inevitably lead to Milton being on the bench all year (ie, not playing). So you get all the worst parts of Milton Bradley on the team (Milton Bradley being on the team) but none of the good parts (Bradley playing). I think you say "that crap can't happen again Milton, let's do our best to play by the rules this year and we will make a concerted effort to punish any fan making racial comments to you". He's still going to be a dick because that is what he is, but you have to try and get 100+ games out of him and hope for the best.
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Not nearly as much as the explanation/excuse. Lovie sounds desperate, maybe his job is on the line. Either that or he's so secure about returning that he just doesn't care about trying anymore. I missed the explanation/excuse. What did he say (or where can I hunt down the link)? Most of the papers picked up the quotes. Something about how they were two seperate incidents, they originally called a timeout because "something wasn't right on offense" (something Turner refuted), then he decided to use his challenge because you always use a challenge when you can, and the lack of timeouts didn't hurt them anyway. It was an unwinnable challenge, like most of Lovie's attempts. And it's ridiculous to suggest that the timeout didn't affect them. They were in a rush on offense as soon as they dealt with the sack and timeouts would have been very useful when trying to move down the entire field for a touchdown with a team that can't block and no game changing receivers to throw to repeatedly.
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Not nearly as much as the explanation/excuse. Lovie sounds desperate, maybe his job is on the line. Either that or he's so secure about returning that he just doesn't care about trying anymore.
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I understand what you mean when you say the "fact" doesn't tell us anything on its own. But, somebody shouldn't get criticized for saying we no his value his low. It is. That's fairly obvious. His trade value is probably significantly lower than his value as a player right now. The Cubs are desperate to unload him and very few teams are anxious to get him. I'm explicitly not criticizing anyone for saying his value is low. I'm only criticizing the use of "no trade has happened yet" as a justification for that belief. As a piece of circumstantial evidence that fits in with the narrative I think it's still meaningful despite the fact it proves nothing on its own.
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I understand what you mean when you say the "fact" doesn't tell us anything on its own. But, somebody shouldn't get criticized for saying we no his value his low. It is. That's fairly obvious. His trade value is probably significantly lower than his value as a player right now. The Cubs are desperate to unload him and very few teams are anxious to get him.
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I'd have to disagree. It's very clear he's got very little trade value and the Cubs are desperate to move him. The current situation more than implies both. But those two things are inextricably tied together, as their obvious desperation is weighing heavily on his value. Halladay hasn't been traded yet - does that mean he doesn't have value either? There are plenty of things that point to whether or not Bradley has value in the market. But the simple fact that no trade has been executed yet is not one of them. But that simple fact is not all we know. We know Toronto needs to get more than the value of 2 draft picks in trading Halladay, we know they don't have to trade him. We know the Cubs are 99.9% commmitted to trading Bradley. We know they are willing to pay a significant portion of the cost to make that happen. This is not an information vacuum. The Cubs are desperate to trade Milton Bradley (their own mistake but they are making it) and his value is low. Teams have been linked but most have said flatly they have no interest, some of them even laughing at the concept. We know many teams would love to get Roy Halladay, but that's a completely different situation and there's no good reason to compare the two.
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I'd have to disagree. It's very clear he's got very little trade value and the Cubs are desperate to move him. The current situation more than implies both. But those two things are inextricably tied together, as their obvious desperation is weighing heavily on his value.
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I guess Biggs is staying on the show even though he moved to the Tribune? Did they offer any reasons why the line was only 3? Lovie Smith's record against the Packers is the only thing that comes to mind. Huh...weird...I didn't know about Biggs' move till I read this. He wasn't on Mully and Hanley this morning, fwiw. At least not at the usual time that I hear it. Oh wow...Rick Morrissey went to the Sun Times too? Sun Times loses twice! I was watching a Sportsnite episode during the winter meetings and when they did a segment with Paul Sullivan, he kept asking everybody in the studio if they were still with the Tribune. I didn't get it until the next day when I saw Morrissey's mug on the Sun-Times website.
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Every relief pitcher should be interested in the Cubs since their moronic GM can't help but wasting millions of dollars on them.
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TIMEOUT!!!
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As incompetent and cowardly as ever
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Not true the bears dominated when they were good, gb dominated when they were good, and the bears took control again when they had their brief resurgance
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I can buy that, but it's the people who all of a sudden pretend college football is only about the BCS and therefore not a sport, let alone a sport worth watching all year.
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Gammons Leaves ESPN, Joins MLB Network
jersey cubs fan replied to sweetpeteman's topic in General Baseball Talk
I agree with the sentiment, but you aren't putting Stark out there as some sort of progressive thinker on stats are you? He's about as old school as it gets, and his stats obsession is centered around the quirky and coincidental much more than what stats tells us about the game. -
You said NCAA football and there is more to NCAA football than who wins the championship. Furthermore, pageants are completely subjective, while national championship is only partially subjective, but first and foremost based on objective win/loss situations. It's a stupid comparison. No, they are not based on objective wins and loss situations. There times when teams win and drop and times when teams lose and don't drop. There have been times when two teams won and one team jumped the other in the polls. You can call it stupid if you like though. The sport is played on the field and games are determined by who scores more points. It's not all about who is ranked where.
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The worst part of bowl season is definitely all the babies crying about bowls and the BCS, followed by waiting for the bowls to start. The other day a sportswriter in the metro tried to write something about how college football isn't really a sport and isn't really followed by anybody, and used as his primary argument the fact that it's not big in NY, becuase there's so much more worthy stuff to follow. Nevermind the fact that NY has tons of OSU, PSU, UM, ND and other large fan bases that very much do follow it. But a large chunk of the football fan population went to Ivies or other small northeastern schools where it's nearly impossible to find their team on TV. But bars are packed with college football fans all season. And the closest thing to a hometown team is Syracuse, which is miles away, and maybe Rutgers, which nobody followed until Schiano. He also said it's only followed in places were "fringe thinkers" live. You gotta love how everybody is all giddy about college football during the season, then whine about how awful and meaningless it is and how it's a fringe sport akin to beauty pageants at the end. It's one thing to be disappointed in the lack of a true chamionship, but to pretend it's this tremendous travesty and ultimately a fake sport is just laughable.
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Is that the right behind the dubout one? It's not in the clubhouse.
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I don't understand what there is not to like. So much more efficient. Are people scared of seeing another weiner or something?
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You can be sure the Cubs have nothing new to say that Bradley hasn't been told many times before under similar circumstances. This is not exactly uncharted water for this dude. The guy is what he is, and expecting him to change his stripes now is pretty silly, especially as a result of some reconciliatory meeting. Which makes it even more inexplicable how the Cubs have changed from needing to sign him to needing to trade him. He was exactly what you should have expected last year.
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Me too, which is why i think 2.5/3.0 is low. I can't imagine there's that much money on Chicago to keep it so low. But obviously there's a good amount of money on Chicago, whether it's by lots of small bets or a small amount of large ones.
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Hendry is striking out on everyone so far this offseason. Maybe they didn't like what they saw? I think it is funny that Hendry gets crap no matter what. Signs folks early, FU Jim! Possibly waiting to see things materialize, FU Jim! This is true, but it's true of everything in life because there's always one person out there who likes/dislikes counter to others. I'm glad he didn't sign Putz. I can't imagine why anybody would give Hendry crap for not signing him.
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Foolishly or deliberately because they don't want to have to deal with him next year? You could make the argument that they want him gone more than any of the players do. This is true. That has to be playing a role.
