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They've kept making stupid mistakes for a long time now. And yet the franchise isn't in serious trouble. They are in worse shape than they were a decade ago.
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They've kept making stupid mistakes for a long time now.
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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 6-1-11
jersey cubs fan replied to Outshined_One's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
It apparently was picked to make the start times of games a reference to a 6-4-3 double play. Wow, that's dumber than 7:11 for the WSox 7:11 was a smart marketing tie in. -
We've already had plenty of time for indicators. He kept Hendry well past the point in time that anybody could have called for a fair shake. He's extremely cautious and conservative and prefers to let the old guard do things the old way. They dipped their toes ever so halfassedly into the statistical analysis pool, but remain as dull and unimaginative as any organization is the game.
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Randy Wells is a converted catcher who has been on an accelerated workload the last two years and had zero evidence of being able to handle it. Young pitchers who flirt with 200 IP for the first time are prone to problems. Andrew Cashner was a reliever who was beginning to stretch into a starter before going back to relief duty and then pushed into a starting role again. Garza is a little unlucky, but when you are already light on starting pitching and then stupidly let a guy go back in after an hour rain delay, you are playing with fire. Furthermore, they purposefully deleted all of their previous depth at the position. That is not luck, that is poor planning followed by reckless decision making. Byrd is the only "unlucky" situation. The rest is par for the course.
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I have a really hard time seeing Knox as a #2.
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You absolutely did imply that it was. What else would you repeat it and stick to it as your only defense for not calling him up. An IsoD over 100, extremely solid numbers at the level dating back to the middle of last season. There's really no reason why he hasn't earned a right to a promotion, and you only list one inaccurate and narrowly chosen stat to make him look worse than he's been.
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What the hell does his strikeout rate have to do with whether or not you would be willing to promote the guy to AAA? because when you're striking out in 33% of your at bats, you really haven't mastered the level you are at yet. The Cubs never put much interest in "mastering a level" when promoting Vitters. And since when is strikeout/AB the determining factor on whether a guy has mastered a level?
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Z's been hurt at some point in time in most recent seasons. Soriano has leg problems every year. Reed Johnson has back problems every year. Jeff Baker doesn't even have to play much to get banged up. Soto gets banged up every year. The only freaky injury is Byrd getting hit in the face, but he's also coming off a career year in terms of games played/PA and never should have been counted on to play every game anyway. The bottom line is 30-something athletes with leg and back issues are going to get hurt, while starting pitchers without a steady history of making every start and throwing 200 innings a season are questionable until they do it. Garza is the closest thing to a surprise pitcher issue, but after the reckless rain delay treatment it shouldn't be that surprising.
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This is going to be the excuse, isn't it? Hendry was quoted earlier saying the injury bug wasn't as bad as 2004, so he's clearly already throwing it out there. You have a roster littered with 30-somethings that have a long history of injuries. The rotation is full of injury/surgery guys (Zambrano/Dempster), converted catchers coming off a steap incline in innings pitched the last two years and a converted reliever whose conversion was halted and then restarted without establishing any track record of long outings, and then on top of it all you strip away your depth. Injuries are going to happen.
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What the hell does his strikeout rate have to do with whether or not you would be willing to promote the guy to AAA?
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Dayton Ohio's Tony Campana
jersey cubs fan replied to Bryants Disco Ball's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
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How is he getting jerked around? He was getting regular playing time at A+, he came up to play regularly as an injury fill-in, and now because he didn't set the world on fire or humiliate himself he'll go back to Daytona and play every day some more. If he wasn't promoted due to being an injury replacement and he is demoted for a mistake shortly after that promotion, then that is pretty clearly being jerked around.
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Why wasn't Campana sent back down after getting picked off first? It seems a major league game is a much worse time to have a lapse than a random AA game whose outcome is completely meaningless.
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Where the hell is he gonna play for us? SS. Move Castro over to 2B. Starlin may have to go to 3rd.
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did I see a little middle finger action there?
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It's more than what you are willing to spend. It's what you are willing to spend in contrast to what all the other big spenders are spending, and what is available. Unless you are the Yankees, signing a middle of the order bat and an ace pitcher is nearly impossible. Again, it's up to the Ricketts. If they're willing to keep the payroll at approx. $150 million if necessary then the Cubs would potentially have in the vicinity of $50-$60 million to spend. That would easily cover both if both are available. Then they have even more money coming off the books after 2012. Sure, it's up to them, if they want to pour whatever they can into the team they can do anything. But in reality it's a nearly impossible task, not to mention incredibly risky. Even the Yankees failed to get their big fish last year in Cliff Lee. You need to produce impact players on the farm and cannot just rely on a guys who could be okay if they meet their projections.
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FUKUSLAM
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Managers tend to favor veterans, even [expletive] ones. I still like that "since he's not good at the bat everybody just assumes he's a quality defensive catcher" theory that somebody put out there. He's just an experience crappy catcher. Isn't the opposite true for Soto? Wasn't he considered a good defensive catcher in the minors until he raked in AAA in 2007 and then won the ROY award in 2008? Yeah, Soto's reputation was as being a solid catcher defensively and just OK at best with the bat until he broke out. Maybe they considered him solid defensively because he wan't a good hitter? HMMMMmmmmmmm, think about it.
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It's more than what you are willing to spend. It's what you are willing to spend in contrast to what all the other big spenders are spending, and what is available. Unless you are the Yankees, signing a middle of the order bat and an ace pitcher is nearly impossible.
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Managers tend to favor veterans, even [expletive] ones. I still like that "since he's not good at the bat everybody just assumes he's a quality defensive catcher" theory that somebody put out there. He's just an experience crappy catcher. And if you win a game with such a player, managers will always try and place part of the credit on that crappy catcher for some reason.
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As fair as you may be treating them, you are still talking about filling both an ace role and middle of the order hitter in free agency, which is next to impossible for anybody outside the Yankees.
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Well I think that's a distinction that needs to be pointed out. They went from producing a good amount of top line pitching talent with no bats, to producing some okay arms and some okay bats. So they are doing that better than they've done in decades, but it's still lacking quite a bit.
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No way is this system better than it has been in decades. That's ridiculous. One decade ago it was better. There may be multiple guys who project as useful, but the majority of those will still fail to live up to their limited projections. In regards to position players? What the [expletive] are you talking about? The Patterson-Choi-Hill era? You said, "in all". In all the farm system is not better than it has been in decades. The position players might be, but in reality it's no better than it was three years ago, when it still had Castro and Soto. It's okay. But it's not nearly as good as it should be for an organization that talks such a big game developmentally and supposedly has one of the best drafters in the business.
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That would have more to do with the frequency with which he hits at Citi Field, though, rather than be indicative of a downward trend in 3B offense. well, he has a .908 OPS at citi field this year. ops+ doesn't care what his splits are I know. I'm saying his home field is not holding his OPS down. Unless it could be 988 in another home park.
