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What justification do you have for this point? I pointed out his career line to illustrate the point that overall he's been very good. His bad years are not bad despite what some people continue to claim. And his good years are terrific. That provides insurance against black hole type production with the upside of potentially league leading production.
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Is this supposed to say the NFL Network?
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Looking at the career line seems pretty unhelpful with a guy like Soto. Like you said, he's been either tolerable or terrific (or hurt). He's never had a season that's simply good. It's always been well above or well below that. One would have to imagine that such extreme volatility would lower his value to other teams. That doesn't make any sense. He's either been terrific or tolerable. It's not like he has abysmal seasons. You have the stability of not sucking with the upside of greatness. Also, getting hurt comes with the territory if you are a catcher.
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I'm coming around on it a little, but the more I think about it the more I just get upset that he had to get hurt when he did. What is his status? Is there hope he returns this year?
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Their theoretical ceilings say nothing about how easy it will be to get above average production in 2012. The Cubs have Carlos Pena and tons of cash. Those two options are at least as likely to result in above average production at 1B in 2012.
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It needs to be said again, for his career his line is: .262/.355/.459 That is an OPS over 800, and takes in the best of times and worst of times of his career. His bad years represent tolerable seasons for a catcher. His good years have been terrific. His career has been very good.
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A pretty good prospect or two would be a terrible return on Soto.
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Is that really a thing that needs to be done? He's never going to hit worth a lick but if you have a good enough OF he could be a useful 5th OF/defensive replacement/pinch runner.
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He has been for a month and a half. They started out toward the top of that list, have been plummetting, and will go even lower once Utley registers enough PA to bump their totals. The Cubs sucked at 2B in 2009 and 2010. They could easily be on their way to sucking at 2B in 2011. There is no way you can claim they will easily fill 2B with above average production next year. That is a baseless comment. I said easiest, not necessarily easily. The Cubs prospects may bust. That doesn't mean they should block them because they're afraid of that happening. The Cubs have to identify areas that they can get cheap average to above average production at. Right now, 2B seems to be the top of the list in that department. They have close to 5 legitimate options there to start next season. And it's going to be pretty hard for the Cubs to drop much further in the rankings. Philly will pass them, but everybody else behind them is way behind them. Again, it's a baseless comment. I could say 1B will be the easiest to fill with above average production.
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Ravech: Doesnt expect to see Hendry next year
jersey cubs fan replied to Dallas Green's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
It's not an implication, it's an assumption based on the previous post. I haven't really followed the Cubs closely in several years, so unfortunately I don't know Matt Garza of the Cubs from Joey Garza of the Larry McMurtry novel "Streets of Laredo." Regardless of whether Matt Garza is marginal, sub-marginal, or a budding superstar, I still stand by the basic premise that if you have young players who, regardless of how much raw talent they posess, will never develop into major league performers of any caliber under your system, you are probably better off trading them for the 25th man on your roster than keeping them around. Unless the 25th man you want to trade for has a miserable contract that will tie up half of your budget for several years. In that case you are better off keeping your prospects until they burn out and hiring them to sell programs at Wrigley. I don't understand any of this post. -
The Cubs can pick up the bill.
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He has been for a month and a half. They started out toward the top of that list, have been plummetting, and will go even lower once Utley registers enough PA to bump their totals. The Cubs sucked at 2B in 2009 and 2010. They could easily be on their way to sucking at 2B in 2011. There is no way you can claim they will easily fill 2B with above average production next year. That is a baseless comment.
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They did a horrible job filling 2B in 2009 and 2010.
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Who specifically are you talking about? Barney, DeWitt, Baker, Lemahieu? If you want a good hitting 2B, you actually need a pretty good hitter. It's a productive position nowadays. They Cubs have been plugging holes at 2B for a while now and they have only on occasion filled it with actual production. and Flaherty and others. The Cubs system is filled with middle infield options. And 2B is still not that productive overall-most teams tend to still fill it with poor hitting players. Sure, the crappy teams have crappy 2B. But the good ones generally get actual production there. And the point is to try and be good.
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Who specifically are you talking about? Barney, DeWitt, Baker, Lemahieu? If you want a good hitting 2B, you actually need a pretty good hitter. It's a productive position nowadays. They Cubs have been plugging holes at 2B for a while now and they have only on occasion filled it with actual production.
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Overall they've been better, but the Cubs have made 4 playoff appearances post-strike while the White Sox have made 3. Although they actually capitalized on their "destiny" year and the Cubs crapped the bed. The Sox have been consistently around .500 and have had no really awful seasons, but is that really a badge of honor? It's almost easier to win in cycles of really bad and then really good than just hovering around .500 most years. I'm not sure where you're coming from. The CWS won 90+ three times in the 2000s, plus an 88 and 89 win season. They were below .500 once. They've been better than the Cubs. Still doesn't mean anyone cares, which kind of flies in the face of his "taking over Chicago" claim. Right, I understand that part. If they were going to take over Chicago, it would have happened a while ago. They've really outperformed the Cubs for a while now, but it hasn't changed things.
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Barney has been pretty crappy for a good while now. The Cubs are getting a 688 OPS out of 2B this year, that is 8th in the NL. With Utley finally back in Philly it probably won't be long before they drop to 9 or lower. Middle infield may not be the main area of concern, but the Cubs have plenty of areas that can and/or should be addressed. Get your improvement where you can.
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Overall they've been better, but the Cubs have made 4 playoff appearances post-strike while the White Sox have made 3. Although they actually capitalized on their "destiny" year and the Cubs crapped the bed. The Sox have been consistently around .500 and have had no really awful seasons, but is that really a badge of honor? It's almost easier to win in cycles of really bad and then really good than just hovering around .500 most years. I'm not sure where you're coming from. The CWS won 90+ three times in the 2000s, plus an 88 and 89 win season. They were below .500 once. They've been better than the Cubs.
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In my mind everybody involved in that organization talks a lot of crap despite not being all that good. But they have been better than the Cubs for a long time.
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So Quade still thinks that DeWitt is swinging the bat well enough for third and worth playing in left? Huh. He's sub 700 for the season, sub 600 for the past 2 weeks. 626 for June. DeWitt is terrible, and he can't field either.
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Aren't the Cubs only like 3-4 games behind the Sox in this godforsaken series? It was split evenly until a couple years ago, but now it's about 4 games in favor of the White Sox.
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ESPN doing a great job of piling on
jersey cubs fan replied to GlassCow's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Interesting statement in a post written very clearly in a "I am a better fan than you" voice. -
Yeah including Soriano and Grabow, but ignoring Pena seems really strange. Pena is probably the Cubs' best trade chip, unless they make Soto available. 760 OPS so far this year after last season's 732. I'm not so sure he's much of a chip.
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Cubs do an "It Gets Better" video in support of LGBTQ youth
jersey cubs fan replied to inari's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
You would've guessed Bob Dernier? Well the players, I barely even remember Dernier is affiliated with this team.
