It seems to me that when veteran players take a lot of flack, it's usually warranted due to poor production and/or because the vet is blocking a younger (likely cheaper) player from getting a chance. I don't think there are too many people on here that would dislike a veteran player just because they're old, so long as their numbers are still there. Grudz and Karros got a lot of love from fans in 03, especially considerig what we sent to LAD for them. Jones has stunk it up at times but has been a little better this past month. Cub fans want to get behind him, you can hear the ovations he gets when he does get a basehit. Lilly has been very good this year, and quickly becoming a fan favorite. Marquis is an acceptable 5th starter who's shown flashes of both brilliance and suckitude, but he's eating innings and has a winning record fwiw. Of the players you listed, I don't think any of them recieved harsh treatment when it wasn't deserved. Any reasonable cub fan would love it if Kendall raised his numbers that much. I don't think it's gonna happen, but I'd be fine if Kendall got all the PT if he's productive.