tkenm356

Yay, Dempster pitching. Game over. Putting Dempster in non-save situations or non 9th inning situations = automatic loss

Pie got screwed on that one, IMO

Damn MLB.TV delay, I knew about that force out at home a minute before it was actually shown.

Verlander is quite impressive. Good for him (as well as two of my Fantasy Teams). Let's hope the Cubs can win tonight and gain a game on the Brewers.

Derwood said Giada de Laurentiis wasn't attractive. I voted for New User Name :) Besides, I kind of think the idea as a whole is somewhat pointless. The winner will undoubtedly be one of the more recognizable people, and if it isn't, it'll be because people are trying to make a mockery of the whole concept. Oh, and I also do not like The Mars Volta. I despise them, truth be told.

So you'd take the guy who drives in fewer runs, and scores fewer runs (if the preferred OBP is lower, and his HR are lower, he will score less) all because you don't like the average? This makes no sense. What makes no sense is you seem to think a players OBP and HR totals a mainly tied to their runs scored production. You can have lower OBP and HR's and still score a truck load of runs. The point is you specifically said you would prefer the player with a lower RBI total but claimed if he changed his style he'd hit more. It's nonsensical. R and RBI are team oriented. The only thing a player can do to affect his R and RBI totals are produce OBP and SLG. In his defense, 285/360/510 is better than 234/365/490. I'm not sure if that's tkenm's main point or not, and I don't agree with judging players on RBI or Rs. However, I do think a team is better off with the former numbers. It's not my main point. My main point originally was that Dunn's OBP should be higher considering the amount of walks he takes, and said if he just hit for better average instead of trying to clobber the ball, his OBP and OPS would skyrocket. I had mentioned that if he did that he'd probably score more runs and drive more RBI's in as well. Never once did I judge a player based on runs and RBI's, some people just assumed I did and the debate turned to a runs and RBI debacle.

No, I'm not ignorant to the value of OBP/SLG. I just don't like Adam Dunn for his price. At his cost he should be able to bring more to the table than a HR, K, or BB I'd much rather see someone like Carl Crawford on this team than Adam Dunn, but his asking price would likely be too high, even though the much heralded SLG and OBP stats pale in comparison to Adam Dunn

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Dunn had 64 XBH's last year. 40HR, 24 doubles. The following players from the initial list had 64 or more XBH's: Bill Hall (78) Michael Cuddyer (70) Raul Ibanez (71) Johnny Damon (64) Hanley Ramirez (74) Jose Reyes (66) Jimmy Rollins (79) As for the whole argument of the better lineups... then yeah, you're right. Unfortunately, the Reds have outscored the Cubs the last two years soooo, we'd be bringing him into a lineup that can't drive in runs to have him do what? Hit solo home runs? Don't we have enough of those already? And just how many runs is he going to allow to score out in right field with his stellar glove work? I don't see how anyone can make a solid argument to put Dunn on this team. If you want to refute my opinions on the matter, that's one thing and completely understandable, I love debating (even if I am the only one who thinks the way I do :lol: , but anyone who thinks adding Dunn and his monster contract is a good idea for this team is fooling themselves

Did they move him to the DL just to accomodate Floyd so they wouldn't have to move anyone down? This sucks for one of my fantasy teams... Upton's likely going to the DL, too. :x

So you'd take the guy who drives in fewer runs, and scores fewer runs (if the preferred OBP is lower, and his HR are lower, he will score less) all because you don't like the average? This makes no sense. What makes no sense is you seem to think a players OBP and HR totals a mainly tied to their runs scored production. You can have lower OBP and HR's and still score a truck load of runs. The following people had lower OBP and at least 5 or more LESS HR than Dunn and scored mored runs than he did last year, and I'll put their AVG, OBP, and Runs scored in parenthesis: Adam Dunn (.234/.365/99) Edgar Renteria (.293/.361/100) Bill Hall (.270/.345/101) Michael Cuddyer (.284/.362/102) Raul Ibanez (.289/.353/103) Dan Uggla (.282/.339/105) Johnny Damon (.285/.359/115) Hanley Ramirez (.292/.353/119) Jose Reyes (.300/.354/122) Jimmy Rollins (.277/.334/127) See a theme? All AVG's between .270 and .300. The point I was trying to make was if Dunn would hit for average he'd dominate a lot of categories, but he doesn't, can't, and likely won't. The Cubs don't need that, and as others pointed out, especially not at his price. If you can find a guy who hits for and average between .270-.300, have an OBP between .340-.360, and can hit 20-30HR and 80-90RBI, they can score just as many runs as Adam Dunn will, and likely not cost you runs with their shoddy glove work in right field. Adam Dunn is not an answer

I believe this is a correct assessment of the situation. The high probability scenario is that Hendry has the green light to make any deals he wants to in order to improve the club if they are in the race, but only for two types of players: (a) expiring contract after 2007 (b) under contract in 2008, provided the trading team takes back equal and existing Cub contracts So, someone was suggesting shortstop upgrade. The Cubs could acquire David Eckstein. He is a free agent after 2007. The Cubs could acquire Miguel Tejada. But since he's under contract in 2008 for $13M, the Orioles would have to pick up salaries on Cub players in 2008 to the tune of $13M - e.g. Jones, Dempster, Blanco plus prospects. I know you're a very well respected member of this forum community, but shame on you! :)

Who cares about his D at this point. He's a 40 HR and .900 OPS machine. And a horrible hitter, to boot. The guy walks over 100 times a season, and still can't muster an OBP higher than .400 You have to suck something fierce as a hitter to put up 100+ walks a year and not have an OBP over .400. Adam Dunn just so happens to suck something fierce. We don't need his HR's. Go ahead and look up all the hitters who walk 100+ times a year. All the hitters who don't have an OBP higher than .400 typically have onme thing in common: low batting averages. Call me crazy, but I like seeing a little bit of small ball every now and then. Drive the runner in with and opposite field base hit, lay down a sac bunt, etc. We don't need power hitters. We have three power hitters (granted Lee's struggling), and our power hitters can hit for average. Dunn is a waste of time. If we're looking at a RF we need to look or one that can play defense and put up an average of at least .280 and an OBP of at least .350. I'd rather have someone who can put up solid numbers in both categories than be an extreme in one and the anti-extreme in the other. And Dunn's OPS last year was .855, and has only topped .900 twice in his 4 full years in the majors (3 times if you count his 244AB rookie year). For someone who hits 40+ bombs a year, that sucks You're crazy (hey, he asked me to). I'm in awe of just how bad this post is. Even ignoring Dunn for a moment, you'd prefer a guy who can bunt to a guy that hits 40 HRs a year? Really? I'm not misunderstanding you? I want to be sure, b/c that is crazy. Yeah, and that's my fault. I should've clarified (I suck at doing that, it seems, as is evident by a lot of my other posts on this forum :) ). Basically what I'm trying to say is I don't want a three truths guy out there. I like the 40HR, yes. I don't like that all he brings to the table is his 40HR and that's it. I'd take a guy who can put up a line of .285AVG/25HR/85RBI/.360OBP/.510SLG Over something like saaaaay: .234AVG/40HR/92RBI/.365OBP/.490SLG (Dunn, last year) If Dunn could just learn to hit for average instead of power he could still hit 30+HR but he'd drive in way more runs, score more runs, and have absurd OBP/SLG. Even if he boosted his seasonal average to a mediocre .270, with the amount of walks he takes and his power his OPS would easily be over .950, but it never will be, because Adam Dunn is a one trick pony, and the Cubs already know that routine

I find it insulting that David Wright is ranked at #49 with a line of: .279/.374/.511/.885 12HR 34RBI And with SB aside, Aramis can't even crack the Top 100 with a line of: .299/.352/.540/.892 13HR 39RBI

Who cares about his D at this point. He's a 40 HR and .900 OPS machine. And a horrible hitter, to boot. The guy walks over 100 times a season, and still can't muster an OBP higher than .400 You have to suck something fierce as a hitter to put up 100+ walks a year and not have an OBP over .400. Adam Dunn just so happens to suck something fierce. We don't need his HR's. Go ahead and look up all the hitters who walk 100+ times a year. All the hitters who don't have an OBP higher than .400 typically have onme thing in common: low batting averages. Call me crazy, but I like seeing a little bit of small ball every now and then. Drive the runner in with and opposite field base hit, lay down a sac bunt, etc. We don't need power hitters. We have three power hitters (granted Lee's struggling), and our power hitters can hit for average. Dunn is a waste of time. If we're looking at a RF we need to look or one that can play defense and put up an average of at least .280 and an OBP of at least .350. I'd rather have someone who can put up solid numbers in both categories than be an extreme in one and the anti-extreme in the other. And Dunn's OPS last year was .855, and has only topped .900 twice in his 4 full years in the majors (3 times if you count his 244AB rookie year). For someone who hits 40+ bombs a year, that sucks

Anotehr reason to chock this up to "Umps hate Cubs" theory is that even after they plunked Soriano the day before, later in the game they plunked Gallagher, our PITCHER, and yet there were still no ejections. 2 hit batters in the game, one a guy who hit 3HR the night before and the other our pitcher, and nothing happens. Lilly hits a guy, he's tossed. Renteria clobbers a guy AND is clearly out by a mile.... he's safe and nothing happens. This makes me livid

All of this is crap, yes... but am I the only one who noticed that Renteria was nailed at second? The replays that I remember clearly show Fontenot catching the armpit of Renterias jersey a good 6-7 inches before his foot even touched the bag. Did Fontenot drop the ball? I don't recall the play clearly after the hit

Please trade him for anything other than another outfielder

How can you blame Mark Cuban for the team losing games? It's not like Cuban is out there bricking 3-pointers and throwing the ball away. Cuban is exactly what this team needs. He's a stats freak, he'll take all the stats a team should look at for players and utilize the hell out of them to build the best team possible. How can you even take the bad things that he has done with basketball and apply them to baseball, which is a complete 180 in terms of management, and assume Cuban will be awful, when the bad things he has done has yet to prevent his team from being one of the most dominant teams in the conference?

I hate the "They'll have to eat a sizable portion of his contract" argument on Jones. It's not like he's making Todd Helton money, he's making $9 million for this year AND next year. If the Cubs have to eat $5 million of that, is it going to be that huge of a loss? It's not like we're trying to trade away a bad contract, we're trying to trade away a bad player who still could have some upside. Is it really that much a of a big deal? $5 mil, Jones, and a mid tier prospect with no future in this organization due to blockage (Scott Moore, anyone?) for a high tier prospect or slightly below high tier?

Don't know much about himn, but read the reporto n ESPN that said he's yet to hit 18 years old, and he was the best hitting prospecto ut of high school. I would assume he'd be maybe 23 or 24 by the time he's ready for the big leagues, which if I'm not mistaken is about the time Aramis' contract is finished. When I first saw we drafted a 3B I was kind of furious (I wanted Weiters, and didn't understand the concept of drafting a 3B with Aramis) I looked at his age and it kind of makes sense.

I started Hughes on his first day. As well as Miller. only reason I would do it is because I need a boost in a certain category that I hope they can come in and give a jump start in. Like If I'm tied in wins, down by a few in K's, or very close in ERA/WHIP, I'll start a first time hoping he dominates and puts me over the top. If I'm losing my ass, then I'll start him anyway, if I'm winning by a lot, I bench him in case he sucks so bad it really screws up your pitching for that week

If it's been posted, lock... http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2896288

Solid trade