To clarify, that's a slightly different argument. I'm certainly not saying to send Marmol out in any and every situation, I didn't want him out there yesterday and definitely wasn't happy when he started the 8th. The original statement regarding Piniella's reckless usage of Marmol was pretty general, though. I'm just saying that it's still reckless independent of Marmol's actual injury risk, precisely because we, nor the Cubs, really have a great idea of how much they can push Marmol before his arms starts to wear down or he loses effectiveness.