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Ok - now look at all the other teams Caleb could go to and tell me why the Bears situation is worse for an incoming QB. Look at Wash, NE, AZ, NYG, etc down the line, and tell me why those teams seem far friendlier to a rookie QB. (You can't. Because their rosters are way worse and they have way more upheaval in the front office)
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It's a very annoying narrative that appears to have very little or zero substance behind it. I get that there's like 2.5 months before the draft, but people can't let boredom and lazy narratives drive them into irresponsible journalism.
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It's truly remarkable how different the mindset of the average, casual Bears fan is from folks who are a bit nuts (like me) who pay more obsessive attention to the Bears and the NFL at large. The casual Bears fan thinks Fields is great, promising, and is a no doubter to stick with. And the average Bears fan is irrationally gun-shy about moving on from someone that can at least appear to be a competent QB. There's almost a traumatic response to it. But read what fans of other teams think of Fields - he's largely regarded as a mediocre QB. People are aware he can make spectacular plays, but there's....not really anyone clamoring for him. We shouldn't be satisfied with mediocrity, just because he's a nice guy who by all signs is beloved in the locker room and does everything right - outside of football. It's tragic in that regard. As a person, he's everything Jay Cutler is not. But it's also like, normal football stuff to move on from a guy when you get a chance like the Bears do.
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Is he? I would think he is, but Poles and ownership may think “he’s got a rookie QB” and give him even more leeway in 2024. I almost can’t fathom giving a guy 3 seasons of grace (especially if he can’t manage a winning season in 2024) but they might.
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If it was 2005 or 2010, the team would keep Fields to start while Caleb sits and learns. But teams are a lot more comfortable starting rookies these days (and trading in the NFL is far more common) I will say, if you can’t get at least a high 3rd or better for Fields, I’m not sure the return for him is large enough to justify dealing him when you’re gonna want an experienced player at QB available as a QB1 or 2 after drafting Williams. (I can’t imagine the team would be happy with Bagent as your other backup/bridge starter/whatever). So, I dunno.
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Agreed! It's pretty low risk and low cost to continuously look for QB prospects you might like in the later rounds. I'd also put a premium on guys who were super productive in college but maybe didn't hit the measurables super well. I think we're seeing that pure number of snaps is a pretty decisive advantage for QB prospects. The more they play, the more they've had to adjust to defenses, the more looks they've had pre-snap, the line calls they've had to make, etc. etc. etc - all great advantages. I will always be far more reticent want to draft a QB who only played 1 year as a starter, no matter how impressive they look.
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I don't want to speak for him but I think the premise is that Fields is so bad he's below replacement level and the Bears would be better off with virtually anyone else in the league. I don't agree with that, but so it goes.
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The Brock Purdy story is pretty cool I think. I guess people are tired of the 49ers but I don't feel any particularly way about them. I feel like each time someone disrespects Brock Purdy's talent to grouse about how good his surrounding cast is, it powers him up to throw more miraculous-off-the-DBs-facemask catches to one of his receivers. So, I fully expect him to play well enough to win, and for everyone to disparage him and dismiss him when he's Super Bowl MVP.
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That logic also applies to any potential trade partners: if there’s lots of interchangeable talent between 10-20, then what’s the motivation for other teams to offer much to move up in that area?
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Unless the return on 9 is overwhelming, I'm not sure I'm looking to trade it. No matter who's gone by the time the clock goes back to Chicago, there's special talent available. And I think this team does need a bit of special talent on the roster. If all goes according to plan you get Caleb Williams at 1 and you get another difference maker at 9. I'm typically team "accumulate as many assets as possible" - and I can see a path for that. But I also want a real ass-kicker WR, TE, Dlineman or a stud Olineman if there's one available there.
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Absolutely devastating loss there for the Lions. Campbell’s 4th down tries while in Field Goal range should be scrutinized, though they’re true to his form and the way he coaches. You live by the big balls, you die by the big balls. time will tell if this does lasting harm to the team or if they’re built for long term success. For the Bears sake, I hope it does lasting damage.
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Hey Vic, wanna come back home to Chicago? (I have not been following him and have no idea if he's been successful elsewhere)
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I am pleased the Bears hired an Offensive Coordinator who has worked as an OC and has had success, particularly when the QB position hasn’t been ideal. now let’s see what he can do with Caleb Williams
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Well, I thought the line of Ravens -9 or -9.5 was ridiculous but clearly the Vegas people get football better than I do. which bodes well for us Bears fans in that Green Bay - Sam Fran game (SF are 9.5 favorites)
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It’s too bad Minnesota is in the division because I think that also wouldn’t be a bad spot for Fields. (Need a QB, not high enough in the draft to get a guy who is immediately ready to go, etc) The chances the Bears retain Fields as draft a qb go up… I’d probably do it if I can’t get at least a high 3rd for Fields.
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I consider Fields equal to or better than Winston, Mariota, Wentz, Garoppolo, Browning, Minshew and has more upside than the old broken guys. I think there'll be some takers. But I wouldn't be shocked if the Bears have to settle for a 3rd rounder.
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Sure, although you look at KC and can see how lacking weapons matters. Nothing wrong with making the security blanket as nice and as comfortable as possible for the rookie.
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I wouldn't mind upgrading at the RB position - though I'm not sure I would shell out for any RB over the age of 25. It's brutal what's happened to that position but aside from a few freaks of nature... you really don't want to spend money on a guy who's in his late 20s. It's a huge shame but it is what it is. (What Aaron Jones is doing is nuts, good for him) But I'm out on Herbert. I never loved the way he runs, he's not a guy you can really count on to gut out short yardage, and on top of that he's not an amazing receiver. I liked what I saw from Foreman in the short period of time when he played, what happened with him down the stretch? Was he a healthy scratch? Injury? I never got info on that. Roschon has been ok - some promising bursts, some blah. I'd definitely be ok with a guy who's a great blocker and pass catcher out of the backfield. I'm just pretty sure you can find that in like, the 5th round, lol.
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I wouldn't say the Bears are desperate for a TE. Their #1 guy is playing pretty well and is pretty young and locked up - it would be nice to have a second guy, for sure, but I would place that as a moderate need well below WR, Inside OL and Tackle. "Weapons" in general is what they need. WRs that can run routes and catch balls and maybe even have some special talent.
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If you can get Crosby for a steal, I'd be interested, but otherwise, I agree with Kyle - put those resources to building that offense around your new QB. The defense may fall short of being elite, but thats fine. Defenses in the modern NFL are about as reliable year-in-year-out as bullpen arms. You never know what you're gonna get and they may just collapse on you at any moment. The more consistent thing is your offense. Build a competent offense. Make that a mantra in Halas Hall. Build a competent offense.
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Packers wont win the Super Bowl but a run in the playoffs isn't unheard of. That line seems enormous given how well the Packers have played down the stretch and I think I'm gonna put a little money on them to at least cover. I wouldn't be shocked if they meet the Lions in the NFC Championship game.
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i am not gonna defend their position or how consistent they are in enforcing it, lol
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It’s not about money with eberflus. I don’t think they care that much about a piddly few million. What they care about is stability and controversy (avoiding it that is) I’m gonna guess that’s why Harbaugh wasn’t a likely choice, and why someone like Lovie Smith was a PERFECT McCaskey coach.
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So what, who cares People keep saying that as if it's been the same organization all those years. It's been dozens of different GMs and front offices. We don't even have our offensive staff yet (god willing that gets sorted out soon) I mean, maybe you can believe there's some sort of metaphysical force keeping the Bears from developing a QB. I don't believe that. If I did, I probably would just give up being a Bears fan. I hardly believe Caleb Williams cares that the Bears fucked up the QB position in 1987 or whatever, or that they failed to develop Rex Grossman or failed to see the promise in Kyle Orton. I would guess the history with Justin Fields bears some weight. Who they sign as OC and QB coordinator would matter quite a bit more than anything else. And one also has to factor in the positive possibility that if Williams is even half-way decent he wins Chicago's loyalty for the rest of his life.
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I don't love drafting another Tall White Guy From North Carolina, but thats about it when it comes down to comparing Trubisky and Maye. Haven't watched as much film on his as I have Caleb, but he's a very very good prospect.
