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  1. i remember that all they gave up was polanco and bud smith ](*,) Why must you cause me pain?
  2. The Cubs actually had a discussion with Piven about this before it happened and he told them he wouldn't use the "B" word, but then did it anyway. You gotta love it. Stickin it to the man. besides Z flirting with a not hitter this been the best Cubs moment this season for me. Shades of Steve McMichael... :lol:
  3. My sources tell me 3 billion and two to nothing. Your sources are clearly forgetting the 2 runs that the Indians are going to shave to get under the 3 billion and one spread...
  4. If I recall correctly, you said something before about not giving up unless the Cubs were down 10 games under .500 at the ASB...correct? Or am I thinking of someone else? Anyway, if the Cubs hit 20 games under....will you still think they can get back to .500? Cuz they aren't all that far away from that.
  5. The only reason that what Piven did bothers me, is that it gives the Cubs one other thing to try to turn everyones attention to, instead of the stuff going on on the field.
  6. So 3 years isn't enough to judge a decline in performance, but one start is enough to declare a pitcher to be incapable of repeating previous success?
  7. If we're doing that, lets take your 3 year split. Starting from 2003, Livan got worse every year since. I don't value innings quite as much as you, but we'll throw that in there. Also I threw in this year to show the trend. Yes, he had a good year in '03. But he's on a downhill slide. 2003 233.1 innings 3.20 ERA 2004 255.0 innings 3.60 ERA 2005 246.1 innings 3.98 ERA 2006 97.1 innings 5.18 ERA He seems like he is in a long groove right now. I'd like to keep tracking this season before I say he is on a decline, but if he were to add another .40 to his ERA from last season, I would agree that he was. So your 3 year time frame is ok for saying that he's good, but it's not ok for trending a decline? You're very very specific with your metrics, aren't ya?
  8. If we're doing that, lets take your 3 year split. Starting from 2003, Livan got worse every year since. I don't value innings quite as much as you, but we'll throw that in there. Also I threw in this year to show the trend. Yes, he had a good year in '03. But he's on a downhill slide. 2003 233.1 innings 3.20 ERA 2004 255.0 innings 3.60 ERA 2005 246.1 innings 3.98 ERA 2006 97.1 innings 5.18 ERA
  9. At least Alf had 6 fingers on his hands like the dude from Princess Bride. :lol: My name is Antonio Alfonseca. You killed my fastball. Prepare, to die.
  10. Who cares if they were similar age when they came to the league? You're talking about Patterson when he's 26, and Hernandez when he's 31. And they still are a centerfielder and a pitcher. And there have been plenty of Farnsworth threads. Trust me, I've had to moderate them. With the lack of a functional search right now, you'll excuse me if I don't provide links to them. But he was never as highly touted as CP was, few prospects have been. Ok, I guess. Once he was in the big leagues and relieving, I just kind of figured that 100 MPH fastball instantly made him highly touted. I know what you are saying with Patterson, and is exact what I am saying, at least look at what he has done in his prime and scratch the Marlins years. How about the SF years? Are we allowed to look at those?
  11. Who cares if they were similar age when they came to the league? You're talking about Patterson when he's 26, and Hernandez when he's 31. And they still are a centerfielder and a pitcher. And there have been plenty of Farnsworth threads. Trust me, I've had to moderate them. With the lack of a functional search right now, you'll excuse me if I don't provide links to them. But he was never as highly touted as CP was, few prospects have been.
  12. Oh man...do you even REMEMBER last year? He was getting booed unmercifully at every at bat. Fan favorite? Come on... ha ha, fan favorite!?!?!?! He is here. He's an interest. He's someone that we all followed intently as a Cubs prospect, and many feel that his development was ruined by the Cubs management. So his success at this point is interesting to us. So to imply that we're ignoring his past, is just silly. We're seperating his Cubs career from his Baltimore one, because of different environments and different instruction. The fact is that Corey has been much better with the Orioles so far. And I think it's hilarious to compare the judgement of a CF prospects growth, to the judgement of the success of a veteran pitcher. There's 5 years difference in age and time in the league. Not to mention one is a pitcher, and the other a centerfielder. Yes, they will probably be judged differently.
  13. Well, his average season from 2003 to 2005 was 245 IP 3.60 ERA. Is that an example and is that not good? It's ok, not great and not terrible, and an arbitrary group of statistics in a less than stellar career.
  14. that doesn't matter dude, he eats up alot of innings even though he's sucking this year. Plus that's an abberation, if you ignore the 3 other years he's been awful, he's been ok. I don't think you should Dustyize that sentiment. You've see how the exact two exact opposite types of pitcher can obliterate seasons on their own, and so have I, so I've learned the value of health and innings when it comes to starting pitching. If we are judging on career stats, everybody who does that agrees that Patterson is one of the worst players in the league, not far from Neifi status. I personally think that's a wrong way to look at things, but let's be consistent. You keep talking about career stats, like the present is really good, but it's not. You don't want to talk about the past or the present, but simply a period of time that happens to make the numbers look......ok. Not great...just...ok.
  15. Translation: The only stats I'll accept or listen to are the stats that prove my case.
  16. Oh man...do you even REMEMBER last year? He was getting booed unmercifully at every at bat. Fan favorite? Come on...
  17. Well I finally watch some of the World Cup yesterday...I caught the second half of Japan vs Croatia. That wasn't such a good half of soccer, I gotta say... :P
  18. Karma? While I won't be so foolish as to make a claim inferring that ALL Cub fans have done this, there is no doubt that the name Rick Ankiel has been used in a similar manner at times. There have even been a few mocking Daryl Kile. Bottomline, there always some fans in every fan base that true fans would rather not claim as their own and to blame or label an entire fan base based on the few is wrong. Anyone who mocks Daryl Kile is just a class act and odds are will amount to a lot in this world. I think most people mock LaRussa's use of Ankiel more than anything. Did you mean to put a "not" in there somewhere?
  19. Karma? While I won't be so foolish as to make a claim inferring that ALL Cub fans have done this, there is no doubt that the name Rick Ankiel has been used in a similar manner at times. There have even been a few mocking Daryl Kile. Bottomline, there always some fans in every fan base that true fans would rather not claim as their own and to blame or label an entire fan base based on the few is wrong. Agreed. While I'm sure most of us weren't happy to hear of an injury, I don't think many were crying that Pujols wasn't playing either. Just the nature of sports.
  20. I'm sure there's plenty of other threads to express this opinion. I don't think it needs it's own thread.
  21. Hendry: I'll give you 5 years, $4 million Samardzjia: I won't settle for anything less than 5 years, $5 million Hendry: 5 years, $7.25 million -- take it or leave it! The negotiation with Neifi really taught Jim how to get the upper hand.
  22. He got pressured? By who? Baker?? If he's getting bullied around by Baker, I'm not really confident that he'll fire him.
  23. I'm with you. I think they took two different ideas and merged them into one article without there being a direct association.
  24. If only they felt the same way about Dusty/Hendry.
  25. pirates royals devil rays Royals just changed GM.
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