that doesn't matter dude, he eats up alot of innings even though he's sucking this year. Plus that's an abberation, if you ignore the 3 other years he's been awful, he's been ok. I don't think you should Dustyize that sentiment. You've see how the exact two exact opposite types of pitcher can obliterate seasons on their own, and so have I, so I've learned the value of health and innings when it comes to starting pitching. If we are judging on career stats, everybody who does that agrees that Patterson is one of the worst players in the league, not far from Neifi status. I personally think that's a wrong way to look at things, but let's be consistent. You keep talking about career stats, like the present is really good, but it's not. You don't want to talk about the past or the present, but simply a period of time that happens to make the numbers look......ok. Not great...just...ok.