I beat you to that prediction. That's how the Cards deal. They don't like to give up their key prospects and players, and they don't. Daric Barton and Dan Haren for Mark Mulder? Curses, Mark. Curses. Mulder made the Cards a better team than they would have been with Haren. We'll see this year. Mulder is very streaky. Barton in the big leagues before he is anything. That's something completely different from what you said earlier - that the Cards don't like to give up their key prospects (Barton was their top prospect at the time of the trade and considered one of the 25-50 best in all of baseball) and that they don't like to give up key players: Haren with the A's: 301 IP, 3.74 ERA, 1.19 WHIP, .243 BAA, 228 Ks, 68 BBs Mulder with the Cards: 286.1 IP, 4.08 ERA, 1.39 WHIP, .260 BAA, 153 Ks, 96 BBs All I'm saying is that I'm not sold on Haren as a No. 2 or No. 1 or even a No. 3 just yet. I want to see more. I know Mulder is very good, and you can't just ignore what he's done in the playoffs.