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Sammy Sofa

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  1. So if STH A sells 80 games and makes, I dunno, a grand off of his tickets an STH B sells 80 games and makes something like ten grand, do you think both of them are getting kicked out by the Cubs? well, my contention really is that STH A doesn't actually exist so the cubs aren't bothering to try to parse him out. I can assure you you're wrong; we sold most of our tickets in that range, and actually had to compete with other STH selling their tickets low as well if we wanted to move them. Basically we wanted people to be able to use the tickets. Almost all of the most popular games we were going in some combination anyway, so most of what we sold were "regular" tickets. Combine that with the decision or realization of nobody friends or family-wise being able to attend often times being close to the game itself, so even with an awesome team you were selling them at minimal profit margin-levels to get them sold.
  2. So if STH A sells 80 games and makes, I dunno, a grand off of his tickets an STH B sells 80 games and makes something like ten grand, do you think both of them are getting kicked out by the Cubs?
  3. Don't agree at all. 2013-14 sucked. Those of us that had them those years did so for the payoff of having them when they were good. It was money lit on fire. Donate that horsefeathers, homie.
  4. Nobody's saying tons of people are just selling them for the exact face value; just that plenty of people ultimately do sell them for close enough to face value for the Cubs to not take action. We sell plenty of our tickets when we can't go, but almost all of them are still pretty close to face value; any "profit" really ends up mostly in the $15-$20 range per ticket. There's a pretty clear difference between making a little money off of an investment and someone selling almost all of their tickets for what was, no doubt, a huge profit.
  5. It's not as simple as saying the market determines, if some people are just selling to get rid of them while others are putting more effort into pricing them properly, and dipping into other packages to keep making more. On any given day he may not get any more money than anybody else gets. But if you do it right and sell aggressively and for all the right games, you can make a lot more than a typical season ticket holder that just doesn't want to take a bath. Exactly. Dude's talking about "the market" like Kramer talks about writing things off; it's not like the seller HAS to sell their tickets for an insane mark-up just because they can. Basically you're doing that at your own risk if you do it too much. Whether it's the number of games or the money made, both are subjective calls by the Cubs, and, personally, I think the idea of them cracking down on someone they think is making too much/basically acting as professional scalper makes a heck of a lot more sense than doing it because he didn't go to enough games.
  6. I very much doubt that. I very little doubt it. Not that it's a remotely realistic scenario. Nobody is pricing their tickets significantly below what the market allows. Some more aggressively to make sure they sell them, sure, but nobody is selling a high demand game for face on StubHub just out of the goodness of their heart or intentions. I just don't see why they'd even look at how much he got. Because it would be easy for them to do so and spot some pretty obvious selling trends to help them make their decision to give someone the boot. Otherwise it amounts to little more than, "well, this guy is doing something that almost all STH's do, but we're going to kick him out because4 he sold X number more games than the next guy." Money is doing pretty much all of the talking here.
  7. I'm not talking about single game profit. If they have the ability to track all of your season ticket movement through Stub Hub, they can determine what your true intentions are. There is clearly verbiage in the contract for season tickets that says that if you are behaving as a baseball ticket broker with your season tickets, you will lose your tickets. Agreed; every STH is going to sell tickets at some point they make a decent profit from. I have no doubt that they saw a trend here of someone selling almost all of their tickets for way over face value and made a judgement call. Yeah, it's a subjective grey area, but I seriously doubt the profit margin didn't play a huge factor.
  8. "Holy strawman-from-a-guy-who-sold-tickets-to-80-games-plus-a-flex-package, Batman!"
  9. Sure, it sounded worse when we were getting the initial story from the OP, which it made sound like all he had been doing was selling some of his tickets via StubHub and then got the boot without much explanation from the Cubs, but then it turns out he sold all but 8 games and also bought a flex pack that he sold. Obviously, we don't know the guy, but it sure seems like he was leaving out a lot of info until it was pressed.
  10. You keep talking like you expect people to do something, but it's the Cubs' call. They're not doing anything wrong.
  11. Losing all the weight I have, I'm forced to resort to clothes I've not worn in years, so my fashion selection is basically like a one man-time machine back to the mid-aughts. I was thinking I was just shamefully rocking a bunch of dad jeans, but now I'm even more horrified to realize they're LACKEY JEANS.
  12. Well...yeah. Like I said before, I was expecting/hoping the Cubs can see those sales to see that we're not trying to sell our tickets to make money and are instead selling the ones we can't use mostly just to get the tickets' face value back. And have others have rightly pointed out, teams are always upfront about being able to do what they want with the tickets. You haven't stumbled across something nefarious; it sounds like you were doing something to make money using your tickets and they decided to no longer provide you with tickets to sell for a profit.
  13. What's not to believe? You said you sold almost all your tickets and bought a flex pack; those are the STH they decided to cancel.
  14. Now that makes more sense.
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  16. He sold all but 8 games out of 89. I really don't think it's that strange. And it's not a new development. Maybe it's completely subjective or maybe they have some sort of threshold re: percentage of games sold, or maybe there's some sort of formula that takes things like seniority and crap into account too. They've been doing it for years and they said they were doing it and they never made any distinction about whether they were sold through StubHub or other ways. They just clearly don't want people buying them with the primary intent of making money off of them/selling them. As others have mentioned, maybe the out of towners that are selling most/all so they can have access to playoff tickets can talk to their rep and see how at risk they are for this type of thing. But again, I would bet a ton that most of the STH don't go to most of the games. So if only going to 8 is too few, then what about 10? 15? 20? Plus if people are using StubHub, are the Cubs able to see how much they're being sold for? If so, OK, if someone is selling most of their tickets and making a huge profit, fine, but most of the tickets we sold were simply because nobody could go to those particular games and we were looking to make back the face value. That's why I'm saying it feels like something is being left out here, and it's probably how much he was making off of these tickets.
  17. Yeah, basically everyone here is screwed, and most of the season ticket holders, period. Like I said, there's no way most STH aren't selling or gifting most of their tickets every season. As long as it's through StubHub, it's ridiculous for them to start giving people the boot. It still feels like something is being left out of this tale of woe.
  18. Yes, David, we all know that; the point is that the Cubs themselves direct STH as to how they can sell their tickets if they can't use them. If this guy is going outside of that to sell his, fine, then it makes sense he got the boot, but if it's simply because he's "selling too many of his tickets" and he's doing it "officially," that's horse horsefeathers. That's why it seems like something is being left out of this.
  19. Yes. They said that their decision was final due to extensive re-selling on the account. I'm contemplating my options at this point. Part of me says to walk away, but another part of me says they may be in violation of the law. It turns out that Illinois is actually not very friendly toward restricting the resale of tickets as long as it's done through a reputable business like Stubhub. See: See 815 ILCS 414: "Any term or condition of the original sale of a ticket to any theater, circus, baseball park, or place of public entertainment or amusement where tickets of admission are sold that purports to limit the terms or conditions of resale of the ticket (including but not limited to the resale price of the ticket) is unenforceable, null, and void..." Something is missing here; it's not like they don't want people selling the tickets through approved means if they can't use them. They didn't explain why it would be a problem if you were selling them legit?
  20. Have you tried calling them?
  21. Call your ticket sales rep and find out what's up.
  22. I felt bad when I found out that dude with the cane actually needed it.
  23. If the person is selling it via the Cubs-approved channel, I don't really understand why it should be a problem. Fine, if they're selling ALL of their tickets, that's one thing, but even most of them, come on; the amount of season ticket holders who actually go to most of the games instead of selling them or giving them away has to be pretty damn small.
  24. No way; Almora is going to be a beast and you're going to feel like a dope for leaving him out of your sig. Only a fool would leave when a player THAT exciting is at the plate.
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