Other than these guys, the rest of the bullpen is Stevens, Russell, and whoever takes over Zs spot, and while I have nothing against any of them, as long as the guy in charge of the bullpen uses it poorly, it will continue to be a mess, and unfortunately, the guy in charge chooses to continue to put Grabow in big spots. Right, but that doesn't actually make the bullpen bad. It just means the manager keeps insisting on using someone at times he shouldn't. Stevens and Russel are pretty good options to have and they definitely have the players in the system to be much better options than Z was and Howry is.