To be fair, I guess, one would expect a team to have gone 1-8 against the Pirates to be a LOT worse than 5 games under .500. I'm not saying that Lou's is off the hook, but whatever. if it weren't for the fact that as a whole, the national league sucks and is rather unimpressive, my opinion is that lou would have been long gone by now. in a normal year, any team that is that close to .500 but is 1-8 to the pirates should have been fired well before the start of june. the extreme mediocrity of the nl is saving a lot of jobs now. Probably true.