Andy

I'm not trying to put down A&M's 2012 team. Just saying, if Texas A&M can come into the SEC after years of being a solid but unspectacular Big 12 program and come within a few missed FGs against LSU of playing for the conference title in year 1, maybe the college football viewing public and media should cool their jets a bit about the SEC being head and shoulders above everybody else. ETA - I'm starting to realize that I'm kind of preaching to the choir on that topic, so I'll refrain from beating it into the ground.

Alabama has 2 good wins this season, 1 over a team that damn near lost to Ole Miss today and got taken well into the 2nd half by FCS Towson, and the other to a team ND also beat. It seems really odd to use close wins to poor teams as reason to discredit someone on Alabama's schedule in an attempt to make a relative comparison to Notre Dame. Alabama's played three teams that could be described as 'not crappy' this year, struggled with one, creamed one and lost to one. The narrative of Alabama as an invincible force of college football when their most recent FBS game was a home loss to a team that was a middle-tier Big 12 team last season needs to be discredited, even if it means making a comparison you find odd. It's not narrative that has Alabama the head and shoulders #1 in Sagarin's Predictor, or their SOS the best of any title contender save Florida. If the point is one of "any given Saturday", or "Alabama's not invincible", I don't think that's one that anyone's arguing against. If the point is that Alabama is equal or less worthy than the alternatives(especially since their title game appearance is dependent on beating UGA), then I think you're reaching in backlash to their reputation. Why would I argue that Bama ought not to be in the title game if they beat Auburn and Georgia? They're a terrific football team, and they'll have earned it. I'm just tired of hearing about how much better the SEC and Alabama are than anyone else in the country, about what a tragedy it would have been if the SEC streak had ended without them playing in the title game, and on and on.

Alabama has 2 good wins this season, 1 over a team that damn near lost to Ole Miss today and got taken well into the 2nd half by FCS Towson, and the other to a team ND also beat. It seems really odd to use close wins to poor teams as reason to discredit someone on Alabama's schedule in an attempt to make a relative comparison to Notre Dame. Alabama's played three teams that could be described as 'not crappy' this year, struggled with one, creamed one and lost to one. The narrative of Alabama as an invincible force of college football when their most recent FBS game was a home loss to a team that was a middle-tier Big 12 team last season needs to be discredited, even if it means making a comparison you find odd.

Alabama has 2 good wins this season, 1 over a team that damn near lost to Ole Miss today and got taken well into the 2nd half by FCS Towson, and the other to a team ND also beat. That is a cool story, I'd keep my money on Bama if that game occurs. Oh, I'm not telling you you're wrong to think Bama would win the game. The next time it makes sense to bet against Saban in a big game will be the first. Just don't expect ND to get 'spanked'.

Alabama has 2 good wins this season, 1 over a team that damn near lost to Ole Miss today and got taken well into the 2nd half by FCS Towson, and the other to a team ND also beat.

Horrendous call.

Shoulder hit in bounds first, I thought. But it will probably stand on replay because it's not indisputable he had possession. I didn't think he had possession before the shoulder hit out of bounds. It was close. I'd agree that based on the standard of review that shouldn't have been overturned.

Shoulder hit in bounds first, I thought. But it will probably stand on replay because it's not indisputable he had possession.

Johnny Manziel is a runaway Heisman favorite at the moment with Klein collapsing and Barner being contained.

The refs tried a garbage call on a kickoff TD by Baylor earlier, but Baylor scored on the drive anyway. EVERYONE is conspiring against notre dame! The Big 12 stands to gain $14+ million by KSU making the title game and the officials refereeing the game are employed by the Big 12. There's an obvious conflict of interest even if nothing shady is happening.

The refs tried a garbage call on a kickoff TD by Baylor earlier, but Baylor scored on the drive anyway.

Not if Jim Delany has his way, apparently.

I don't really get Maryland or Rutgers for either side.

What about adding another target for Cam or drafting Dline to help the pass rush? That, I'm sure, is their line of thinking (or whoever 'they' turn out to be since we don't actually have a GM right now).

There's a special place in hell for Loria and his cronies. What a disgusting organization. ...and of course, they have two world champions in the last 15 years. There really is no such thing as karma in sports.

I thank aTm for what they did. People on these boards REALLY love Kansas State! I guess it's payback for 1998, eh? But Manziel better win the Heisman. The only thing Klein has on him is 10-0 vs 8-2. I like Manziel, but he threw three picks and was a big part of losing the LSU game. He shouldn't win the Heisman over Klein at this juncture.

What a terrible football conference. That's not really that good of a basketball conference either. Boise and SDSU aren't joining in basketball. Marquette, Georgetown, St. John's and the other basketball-only Big East schools will probably keep that league at least reasonably competitive in hoops.

Big East announces future football divisions. East: Central Florida, Cincinnati, South Florida, Louisville, Rutgers, UConn West: Boise State, Houston, Memphis, SMU, San Diego State, Temple (??) Release says the alignment may be revisited after Navy joins in 2015 and potential other new additions.

It has reached the point where I am legitimately looking forward to seeing how many points Tampa Bay can run up on our defense. They've been playing some really great offensive games of late. I can't even get excited about a potential top 5 draft pick because there aren't any QBs I'm excited about and I don't think Carolina would draft one if there were.

He did, then Quinn got a concussion. Unless you mean for Ricky Stanzi?

And keep us from having stuff to yell at each other about? What fun is that?? :twisted:

And yet here we are. Notre Dame is 2 wins away from potentially being the first team in college football history to get shut out of the title picture for not going unbeaten against an objectively superior schedule impressively enough. You act as if this should just be accepted fact rather than debated.

I fail to see what that Tweet has to do with what I posted.

He doesn't take a stance either way on ND v. KSU (he shouldn't), but Dan Wetzel with another great rip job of the BCS. Most damningly and sadly true is the fact that if ND hadn't lost to Florida State in the Champs Sports Bowl last December, they'd be #2 right now, which is ludicrous no matter which side you're on.

This happens every year. They cannibalize each other so evenly that it all works out for them. The apparent absence of any other really good second-tier teams helps too.