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Heh, I didn't think about that. That's a good angle to work.

He hits him lower? Is this a trick question? Well hitting him too low is also a penalty. He's also in a throwing motion and you'd like to be able to disrupt that as you make the tackle. Maybe you hit him as fast but you also let him have a clean throwing window. That's taking away from the defender. The idea that you can safen the game by cleaning up dirty hits only and not by taking away a defender's chance to make the play in the fastest possible way in certain cases is a complete fiction. It's a sport played with forward body lean by both defenders and offensive players and it's inevitable that helmet to helmet plays occur when all a defender is trying to do is make a play in the shortest amount of time. I'm not disputing at all that it's a flag by the book.

Someone tell me how Peppers makes this play as quickly without doing what he did.

Without putting too much thought into how the CBA affects everything, I still think V. Jackson and S. Rice are two guys that would listen to a short, incentive laden deal so they can rebuild their value after missing most of last year.

Cool What other nuggets of parochial Illinois/Wisconsin information should I know

What does FIB mean

Maynard sucks man.

The difference between Cutler and LT is that there was no Twitter back then so some drunk football NFL guy sitting on his couch couldn't pop off and have thousands pick it up immediately. That plus Cutler, for whatever reason, is the kind of guy whose peers aren't going to hesitate to rip him if they the chance.

Dorell Wright is just the latest example of borderline D-leaguer going to Golden State and putting up stats because they play gimmicky basketball.

Monta Ellis is a better comparison. Everyone on the RealGM bulls forum was mocking him last year (ellis) for his hollow scoring average because he was a chucker and shot a low percentage. Well this year Rose has scored and shot slightly less, but has a slightly lower shooting percentage than Ellis. Rose does shoot better from 3 and gets to the line more, but still. The theme seems to be slow starts. I normally don't bother watching the 1st quarters of games for whatever reason, and when I turn on the tv and load up the box score, Rose is seemingly always a 1-7 or 2-9. And then at the end of the game its something more respectable like 8-20. Another key difference is that Derrick Rose is a lot better at basketball than Ellis. Which would be a good point if I said that Derrick Rose and Monta Ellis are the same exact basketball player in all ways instead of just suggesting that their scoring efficiency is similar. Or at least last year's Ellis vs. this year's Rose. This year Monta has a .549 TS% and Rose .538. Rose has a higher offensive rating (110 to 108) and offensive win shares (3.7 to 3.1) because he, you know, does more offensively than scoring. I really don't put much stock in any impressive looking numbers coming from Golden State. They play at a high pace, exert zero energy playing D or rebounding, and have a long track record of guys putting up nice looking stats without actually winning anything. TS% and all that crap has its place but its usefulness doesn't extend very well to gimmick teams.

Also, being compared to Iverson isn't necessarily a pejorative. He and Larry Brown's commitment to D were pretty much the only reasons those woefully untalented Sixers teams were competitive. A lot of those Warriors players have put up pretty fantasy stats and haven't won dick. They're a glorified And 1 team.

Monta Ellis is a better comparison. Everyone on the RealGM bulls forum was mocking him last year (ellis) for his hollow scoring average because he was a chucker and shot a low percentage. Well this year Rose has scored and shot slightly less, but has a slightly lower shooting percentage than Ellis. Rose does shoot better from 3 and gets to the line more, but still. The theme seems to be slow starts. I normally don't bother watching the 1st quarters of games for whatever reason, and when I turn on the tv and load up the box score, Rose is seemingly always a 1-7 or 2-9. And then at the end of the game its something more respectable like 8-20. Another key difference is that Derrick Rose is a lot better at basketball than Ellis.

I love the portion of the thread where UMFan argues to himself for a couple of hours.

And there was definitely a part during the trophy presentation yesterday where the crowd was very, very hesitant to give him any sort of ovation when Tomlin or someone handed him the AFC championship trophy. Even Steelers fans know he's a big time creep.

Kind of an easy position to take when you just fabricate the part about Big Ben being regarded as a hero out of thin air. There may be a few dopes out there who talk (somewhat correctly) about how Big Ben just wins games or whatever but pretty much everyone considers him a creep don't they?

Yeah this is gonna be ugly

Sanchez and Taj Gibson yeah

thank god for that

but did you see

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I remember saying that in 2006 Yeah, if you guys want a laugh...read some of the training camp reports from 2007. We should've put up 40 points a game based on them.

Did you guys see Mark Sanchez wildly outplay every other QB that took the field today

We should've picked up some scrap heap punter midseason or so and cut Maynard. I can't believe he's one of the 32 best people in the entire world at punting.

And yeah, I've been a huge Maynard hater over the years but he basically got his act together over the last half of the season until today. This is low hanging fruit that needs to be corrected. The hidden yardage in the punting game today was hugely in GBs favor.