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Curtis Granderson is just about the worst hitter in baseball vs. LHP and he's still enjoying some success. It's also not like that's a weakness that can't possibly be fixed.

And will sustain a high level of production later into their careers.

Corey Patterson was not a 5-tool prospect though. .261 in AA, .253 in AAA- it should have been obvious that he was missing the hitting tool. For comparison's sake, Pie hit .304 at AA and .308 at AAA. The problem with the "5-tool prospect" label is that seemingly 80% of the players described as such are really 3-4 tool players. There's really no reason anybody should dislike legitimate 5 tool players for their teams. Hell, Beane even said something to the effect of "Ideally you'd prefer 5 tool players at all positions, but it's not financially feasible." I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially the idea.

Who doesn't like 5-tool prospects?

You're assuming GMs are willing to give up quality MLB ready arms. That generally just is not the case. And for the record, simple typos are a bit different than struggling to put together a sentence other people speaking the same language will have a difficult time trying to comprehend, at least in my humble opinion.

Yes, I know that. But no specifics as to the context of the statements were ever made.

1. Yes they are. 4. Um, yes. 5. The disparity between good and bad catchers is pretty slim relative to the disparity between say good and bad shortstops. 6. People aren't smart, I should not have to tell you this. 7. And I was not basing my argument on errors...for him or Braun. 8. See #4 10. This is true except for a tie game in the 9th inning. 11. Wrong. You're not factoring out third variables brilliant. I am because I'm quite brilliant. 13. Semantics? Do you like not follow the draft or something? Or do you think I know nothing about the draft? 14. See #8 1. Useless for what? It's a good initial measure for determining how well a player fared in run production. Obviously, you need to consider other factors, mainly RBI opportunities, but it has it's uses in evaluating past performance. 5. What facets of a catcher's defense are you taking into consideration? I'm assuming there's several components you're omitting. 10. Is this in reference to the intrinsic value of the physical steal, or are all factors associated with a stolen base, or the threat of a stolen base considered? If you're taking into consideration the way hitters are pitched, games are managed, the quality of pitcher being faced, catcher behind the plate, then I'd like further explanation about how tangible values were given to each of these factors. If you're not, then no [expletive]- they're valueless when you remove several other associated variables and byproducts. 11. If you're going to constantly tout your percieved brilliance, how's about learning to formulate a coherent sentence, mkay? 13. In the context of the draft, then TI absolutely SATAAPP. Considering the complete impossibility of acquiring any type of pitching talent without giving up a hefty sum these days, it is a necessity to utilize the draft in obtaining arms. The success rate in equity for hitters will understandably be greater than for pitchers, but considering how much higher the cost of purchasing pitchers is than hitters later on in a players career, it absolutely is prudent to develop your own pitching prospects. Are you referring to the example that uses Barry Bonds as the sole set of data for which to "prove" the point. Am I the only one who can see the inherent lunacy in this? If you're attempting to argue a stance using facts, it's a good idea not to use statistical outliers on performance enhancing chemicals. I anticipate more bloviating and self-puffery in the absence of any actual counter-arguments. As is par for the course.

Andy Van Slyke is the most reasonable name I can think of.

lol trust me hes right I repeat, I'd like to see the source / factual support for this. The BBTN chapter MPrior was alluding to I've read, and I'll express the flaws in it as soon as I get a few free minutes. 1. Not entirely. 2. Agreed. 3. Depends on what the relevance you're conceding they do have is. 4. Doubtful. 5. Define "relatively worthless" 6. Didn't stop people from complaining about Neifi and Corey at the top of the order. Or Soriano. Or Pierre. Batting order doesn't matter for different reasons that you're assuming. 7. Didn't you argue Tulowitzki deserved the ROY? 8. See 4 9. Agreed. 10. Disagreed. 11. Wrong. Hitters with decent strike zone awareness who use all fields generally have good success in clutch situations. But the "choking" aspect is a non-factor. 12. Agreed, but I wouldn't mind having Clayton Kershaw in our system. 13. Semantics. 14. See 8.

Scouts have often compared him to Carlos Beltran, I'm assuming the 5-tool KC version before he became a slugger. He was also compared to Vlad Guerrero early in his professional career, but that comparison doesn't make too much sense anymore.

It has? I'd like to see the source of this, as the few articles I've read that claim to prove this were so specious and riddled with flawed logic it's laughable. But you may be referring to a different study than the ones I've seen, in which case I'd be interested in seeing them.

Padres probably ask for a little more, but that seems like a good trade. Here we are again, doing all of Hendry's work. They should just hire us to be the GM. Things would be a little easier. As long as it isn't the "us" that wants to start Theriot at SS. or trade Pie for Greene.

ARod.

+1

It's still less absurd than DiPietro's contract.

That's a lot of Joe Crede's the White Sox will be trading away.

They'll be sorely disappointed he isn't in fact, as good as Derek Jeter.

CPatt's still available isn't he? and compared to Hunter and Rowand, he'll be a bargain.

True, i doubt his stats are that good. Most of those seem reasonable though I think BP is too high on Fuku for this season at least and I bet Soto takes a year to grow into those stats. He is also deluding himself that last year was a fluke for Zambrano, I think Shandler is correct to expect a 4ish ERA with the downside of a 4.50+ ERA. His arm has seen too much abuse. The Marmol projection is terrible, he was lucky as heck last year but he isnt' a 4 ERA bullpen arm either. Bill James has always been terrible at pitching projections. if he had befell a season ending injury on august 26th, he would have kept a .288/.351/.376 line, and he wouldn't so much be considered the scourge of the Earth on here.

But Roberts is left-handed....so to Jim, that might be enough to blow him away... Just sayin' is this joke still funny? he got a lefty to balance the lineup, i doubt it's still a big priority.

My favorite name in hockey. I prefer to say it phonetically.

I looked at the box score for this game, as I'm in a fantasy hockey league and was blown away by all the PIM. Also, Lupul with 6 pts- is he finally breaking out? Any thoughts to how many PTs he'll put up this season? I've had a revolving door wing spot that's currently occupied by Dustin Brown.

Any team that has Aaron Rowand as their best hitter needs to be contracted.

Jason Bay's a guy who mysteriously improved drastically after leaving the strict drug testing of the minor leagues. His career path looks like Bobby Higginson's so far. I'd still like to see what it'd take to bring him in.

I consider them to be winners in this saga, not signing Rowand or Hunter.