There probably are any number of managers that would manage exactly the way Baker has. After all Baker played The Game and is a baseball lifer, that seems to be a prerequisit for the position. But truely, I don't think a manager matters that much, maybe a handfull of wins over the course of the season. If a team is close it matter much more. I think Girardi managed the Marlins out of the playoffs, for example. Baker is/was bad, but I don't think he could have got much more out that assembled team then he got. It was bad at the end of 05 and was worse at the start of Spring Training. From what I've ssen of Girardi, I don't want him managing the Cubs next year. Nevertheless, until the front office decides that their philosophy de jour is not the right one it could be a while until the Cubs are in contention. As always I hope for the best. Sometimes things just break right. I agree that managers have less effect than they are given credit for (both postively/negatively). However, when you're a fan suffering through an already frustrating season, you hate to see a manager run a young pitcher out for 120+ pitches several times (after all hope for the playoffs has been lost). And it's just frustrating to watch him hit Neifi in the top spots in the order, and mishandle the bullpen etc. I guess I'm saying managers may not have a huge effect on a team, but Dusty has certainly had a huge effect on my enjoyment in watching the team. I'm just happy that my son is still too young to watch the Cubs and understand what's going on. I don't want him learning baseball by watching Dusty.