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Real big game tonight. Lots of shuffling going on in the middle of the Big 12, hopefully Mizzou can get their 3rd in a row against an OU team that hasn't fared very well on the road. Lunardi is normally very, very good with his predictions. I'd really like to believe that the Big 12 has that much weight, if for nothing else that it keeps a shred of hope that Mizzou could get an at-large with a miracle spurt to end the season, but I don't think that's the case. The Big 12 is down this year, 7th in RPI(just below the Valley and above the Mountain West) among conferences, and I'm not sure if KSU is guaranteed a spot considering some of the other conference crunches, unless they beat one of the other 3 tourney teams(KU, aTm, Texas) in the conference tourney. My only thought is we have already beaten Texas AT Texas. If USC hadn't have lost to ASU, that would have been a pretty nice win too. That's definitely an impressive win, but unfortunately that's the only one. KSU is 1-5 against the RPI Top 50, and OSU is the only team left on the schedule that fits that bill. Even then, the catch-22 is that OSU likely loses to aTm tomorrow, meaning that if KSU beats them too they drop out of the top 50. Also, while the Texas win is great, it's countered somewhat by bad losses against New Mexico and Colorado St. I'm not disagreeing at all, but I still believe, 4th place in the Big 12 and one Big 12 Tourney win and we're in. That's regardless of if we go 2-1 or 3-0. How can you predict that not knowing how the small conference tourneys go? What if Butler loses in theres? Or Memphis? It's all on the basis that OSU and TT have some pretty tough games left. TT has OSU and UT and at Ames which although they aren't a good team is always a tough place to play. OSU has TT, KSU, and at NU which can be tough as well. I don't see any of them catching us in the standings, and one of them will lose to the other. If KSU takes care of business at OSU, it's a done deal. Even if not, OSU will not pass us in the standings, and will more than likely finish 2 games behind us. We'll see, but I guarantee that the big 12 gets 4 teams maybe 5 into the tourney, and I think KSU, by finishing 4th will get one of the spots. Just a hunch, but we'll see what happens. I don't think you do. Hell the Big Ten might only get 3 and we have the 1 and 2 team in America in our conference. Whatever place Duke is in the ACC add one bid to the dance to protect them.

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player. If you're referring to Smith, I think there's a better chance that the Illinois Department of Corrections might have gotten a good player, not Bradley. They are both probational offenses.

Real big game tonight. Lots of shuffling going on in the middle of the Big 12, hopefully Mizzou can get their 3rd in a row against an OU team that hasn't fared very well on the road. Lunardi is normally very, very good with his predictions. I'd really like to believe that the Big 12 has that much weight, if for nothing else that it keeps a shred of hope that Mizzou could get an at-large with a miracle spurt to end the season, but I don't think that's the case. The Big 12 is down this year, 7th in RPI(just below the Valley and above the Mountain West) among conferences, and I'm not sure if KSU is guaranteed a spot considering some of the other conference crunches, unless they beat one of the other 3 tourney teams(KU, aTm, Texas) in the conference tourney. My only thought is we have already beaten Texas AT Texas. If USC hadn't have lost to ASU, that would have been a pretty nice win too. That's definitely an impressive win, but unfortunately that's the only one. KSU is 1-5 against the RPI Top 50, and OSU is the only team left on the schedule that fits that bill. Even then, the catch-22 is that OSU likely loses to aTm tomorrow, meaning that if KSU beats them too they drop out of the top 50. Also, while the Texas win is great, it's countered somewhat by bad losses against New Mexico and Colorado St. I'm not disagreeing at all, but I still believe, 4th place in the Big 12 and one Big 12 Tourney win and we're in. That's regardless of if we go 2-1 or 3-0. How can you predict that not knowing how the small conference tourneys go? What if Butler loses in theres? Or Memphis?

Looks like Bradley is about to get a good player.

I hate what Bruce Weber has done to our program.

I would have loved to have went to that game, there was a lot of talent there.

They would be if every sing;e gportscaster wouldn't have labeled them as such earlier this year. They are very good.

dream on... don't care what he or his parents are saying, he's going to the nba. Normally I'm all for guys staying all four years in college. I usually don't like when they go pro early, but for guys like Oden and Durant, they need to go as soon as they are allowed. He has a shot to be the #1 pick, or at worst, the #2 pick. If he stays in college, he could only jeopardize that ala Matt Leinart. Plus, if he gets hurt next year playing college ball, he's out of luck. If he gets hurt playing NBA ball, he'll have his millions to fall back on. The reason most people go to college is to get a good job. Some guys find a way to do that without graduating by going pro in their sports. I wonder which one the Celtics will get? The NBA usually has the major market teams get the premi #1 pick unless they happen to be from Ohio. Well, that's a conspiracy theory that doesn't seem to make sense-how about Milwaukee or Toronto? They both had number 1 picks lately along with Cleveland as you mentioned. I have a feeling Boston is going to get the 3rd or 4th pick and miss out on Oden or Durant-statistically, they have the best chance at the #1, and so this will not likely happen, but I just have a feeling this is going to be the case. Those weren't marquee years though with a huge prize. Like when they missed on Duncan a few years back? That franchise has had some poor luck lately.

dream on... don't care what he or his parents are saying, he's going to the nba. Normally I'm all for guys staying all four years in college. I usually don't like when they go pro early, but for guys like Oden and Durant, they need to go as soon as they are allowed. He has a shot to be the #1 pick, or at worst, the #2 pick. If he stays in college, he could only jeopardize that ala Matt Leinart. Plus, if he gets hurt next year playing college ball, he's out of luck. If he gets hurt playing NBA ball, he'll have his millions to fall back on. The reason most people go to college is to get a good job. Some guys find a way to do that without graduating by going pro in their sports. I wonder which one the Celtics will get? The NBA usually has the major market teams get the premi #1 pick unless they happen to be from Ohio. Yeah like when Orlando got Shaq? Or then the number 1 again the next year?

Smith called the police, but only after he drove home. He has since lawyered up, which you should do in any casewhere you were driving and someone else is injured. It hapened almost the same spot McBride was injured. Or at least that is what I have read. We really need to get the guys into an on campus house. Is there speculation of anything that may have led to the crash? Some of the quotes I have seen have been rather mysterious. I believe the blizzard and the tree were the main causes. Anything else is just speculation at this juncture.

No surpirse there. So if that is the plan they better not even think about trading one of those young guys then. Unless it really nets someone good. I mean Garnett great, not Pau Gasol good until I reach the playoffs good.

Smith's PER is 15.84. A step down from both Gordon's 18.64 and Hinrich's 16.90. The Bulls could've ditched Thabo in favor of Smith, but the kid's got some issues Pax didn't want to deal with. I don't blame him. Brown's value is his expiring contract. When the Bulls resign Deng, Noch and Gordon, or swing a deal for Gasol, the value of that will be made clear. Fair enough, but right now it hurts to watch PJ play. He is a shell of what he used to be able to do.

I wouldn't call a 15.37 PER flourishing. It's significantly better than his 12.23 PER last year, but Tyson produced a 16.47 PER for the Bulls during the 2004-5 season with Skiles as his coach the entire season. Chandler's a bit of a head case in my opinion. What is JR Smith's per compared to PJ Browns? Or Chandlers vs. Brown? We clearly got the worse end of both of those deals.

Smith called the police, but only after he drove home. He has since lawyered up, which you should do in any casewhere you were driving and someone else is injured. It hapened almost the same spot McBride was injured. Or at least that is what I have read. We really need to get the guys into an on campus house.

This team needs a shakeup. This team just isn't all that great. Oh and its coach sucks. The coach is fine, the players aren't playing. He isn't fine. Thomas doesn't play near enough. He took what 2 and a half years to start Ben Gordon? I agree with you on the Tyrus Thomas issue, but disagree about BG. Why does it matter who starts? BG was getting more minutes than Duhon, so it didn't really matter. He tried starting him and he initially played worse than he did when he was coming off the bench. I didn't see it as too big of an issue. TT, on the other hand, should be getting A LOT more minutes. Just looked at the box score. Okafor played like a beast. 21 boards and 6 blocked shots. I just hate what Pax did to the team this offseason. Wallace was an iffy signing, but then to trade away Chandler and not even keep J.R. Smith the big scorer at the 2 we could use. Especially for P.J. Brown. They are so frustrating.

How is Deron Williams not an All-Star this year now that AI and Nash aren't playing? The West now doesn't have a point guard on its roster.

This team needs a shakeup. This team just isn't all that great. Oh and its coach sucks. The coach is fine, the players aren't playing. He isn't fine. Thomas doesn't play near enough. He took what 2 and a half years to start Ben Gordon?

This team needs a shakeup. This team just isn't all that great. Oh and its coach sucks.

Just another reason to hate the crybaby cheater. :lol: I get the cheater refrence...but why is he a crybaby? When I was watching the Iowa vs. IU game last week he seemed to be whining excessively to the ref's. I know many coaches cry to the ref's, it just seemed excessive to me. Hence my new name for him the crybaby cheater. Ok, just curious. Nobody in the Big 10 matches Weber when it comes to whining on the sideline though. At least Weber isn't pulling for cancer. Sampson has sunk to a new low. I know you're just kidding, but I really wonder why Sampson wasn't wearing smeakers. He is one of the big guys in Coaches vs. Cancer. He wore dark colored sneakers. He doesn't like cancer. Sure, keep telling yourself that. Kelvin loves cancer. He loves being a cancer to the Illini's recruiting, does that count? Yeah but Bruce is doing a good enough job of being that himself.

Just another reason to hate the crybaby cheater. :lol: I get the cheater refrence...but why is he a crybaby? When I was watching the Iowa vs. IU game last week he seemed to be whining excessively to the ref's. I know many coaches cry to the ref's, it just seemed excessive to me. Hence my new name for him the crybaby cheater. Ok, just curious. Nobody in the Big 10 matches Weber when it comes to whining on the sideline though. At least Weber isn't pulling for cancer. Sampson has sunk to a new low. I know you're just kidding, but I really wonder why Sampson wasn't wearing smeakers. He is one of the big guys in Coaches vs. Cancer. He wore dark colored sneakers. He doesn't like cancer. Sure, keep telling yourself that. Kelvin loves cancer.

Why didn't Kelvin wear sneakers today? Is he pulling for cancer? lol. UCDavis I still respect the hell out of IU's program. Just don't like their current coach. I can agree with them on a lot of basketball stuff though.

Illinois will probably get in. We will pry get a 9 seed and if we win get destroyed by Carolina or the like. We have no bad losses and some decent wins. We would havebeen a lock had we beaten either Wiscy or IU today. But I still think we get in.

And there lies the big problem. Warren Carter is our best player. Going back two years ago, no way, no way I would've thought that would ever be the case. Even though he passed the ball to an open McBride, I would've loved to see him take the ball to the hole. For crying out loud, he caught the ball in the lane against two shorter guys. I guess that goes to Weber's love of the perimeter game. Then quit whiffing on Sherron Collins, Eric Gordon, Julian Wright, Patrick Beverley, Brandon Rush's of the world. Bruce has brought a lot of this on himself. i always thought that the campus and town were the reasons that weber couldn't recruit. heck, self could barely get anyone to come to champaign, but after zook snowed a bunch of 4 and 5 star guys to come to town, i'm starting to think the hog farms and lack of anything to do aren't the problem. I disagree with that. Self, Krueger and before that Henson all recruited well. The difference is Weber hasn't been able to get the top in-state kids like the previous coaches. Kruger lost chicago. henson could recruit a bit, but missed on a lot of blue chippers flowing steadily out of chicago during the 80's and early 90's. self did okay, put together a great team, but as far as rankings go, they weren't top of the line. They were all, sans Luther ranked above what we have now. All of them. i'll give you that. nobody has done as terribly as weber has done. dang it, why couldn't we have hired matta when we had the chance? Next year with Matta coaching Collins, Sherron Rose, Derrek Gordon, Eric Wright, Julian Pruitt, Shawn good call RG. We don't what that young up and comer who might spurn us for a better offer. Nevermind he is from Illinois. Oh and he is also doing this badly on the back of a national championship game run.

well, i guarantee that guenther isn't going to let the school slip into perrenial mediocrity again. if bruce can't get the players, bruce won't be the coach. Ok tell me that again in two months when Liggins and Lewis Jackosn are committed to Iowa. if weber loses lewjack, he's done, period. He is going to. If he wasn't he would have already been ours.

And there lies the big problem. Warren Carter is our best player. Going back two years ago, no way, no way I would've thought that would ever be the case. Even though he passed the ball to an open McBride, I would've loved to see him take the ball to the hole. For crying out loud, he caught the ball in the lane against two shorter guys. I guess that goes to Weber's love of the perimeter game. Then quit whiffing on Sherron Collins, Eric Gordon, Julian Wright, Patrick Beverley, Brandon Rush's of the world. Bruce has brought a lot of this on himself. i always thought that the campus and town were the reasons that weber couldn't recruit. heck, self could barely get anyone to come to champaign, but after zook snowed a bunch of 4 and 5 star guys to come to town, i'm starting to think the hog farms and lack of anything to do aren't the problem. I disagree with that. Self, Krueger and before that Henson all recruited well. The difference is Weber hasn't been able to get the top in-state kids like the previous coaches. Kruger lost chicago. henson could recruit a bit, but missed on a lot of blue chippers flowing steadily out of chicago during the 80's and early 90's. self did okay, put together a great team, but as far as rankings go, they weren't top of the line. They were all, sans Luther ranked above what we have now. All of them.