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When there's 2.2 seconds left and Turner catches the ball around the 3 point line in the backcourt, you can probably do better than forcing a shot from the volleyball line. If you don't have anyone on the floor that can stop Turner's dribble, then you need to double him and leave the inbound passer alone. The thing was they did leave the inbound passer alone. And Turner. Michigan had 4 guys behind the defensive FT line when the play began.

Here's the updated lists: Current S-Curve (1-24 and 53-65, 37 teams placed overall): Rank Team W L top25 26-50 51-100 101-200 200+ SOS NCSOS R+N ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 1 Kansas 29 2 8-0 2-2 10-0 5-0 4-0 32 138 11-2 2 Syracuse 28 3 6-0 3-3 9-0 5-0 5-0 27 258 8-6 3 Kentucky 29 2 0-0 7-1 10-1 9-0 3-0 62 199 11-2 4 Duke 26 5 4-3 4-1 12-1 3-0 4-0 4 73 9-5 5 West Virginia 24 6 5-3 3-2 8-1 6-0 2-0 1 39 12-4 6 Ohio State 24 7 5-4 1-1 6-2 7-0 5-0 48 231 7-6 7 Kansas State 24 6 5-3 2-2 8-1 4-0 4-0 6 96 11-3 8 Purdue 26 4 4-3 4-0 6-1 8-0 4-0 31 177 12-2 9 Villanova 24 6 5-3 4-2 5-1 6-0 4-0 8 163 12-4 10 Wisconsin 23 7 6-3 0-1 8-2 5-1 4-0 22 120 7-6 11 New Mexico 28 3 4-0 3-2 1-0 11-1 9-0 98 129 11-2 12 Baylor 24 6 5-3 2-1 8-2 3-0 5-0 37 228 9-5 13 Michigan State 24 7 2-4 2-1 9-2 7-0 4-0 34 170 9-5 14 Pittsburgh 24 7 4-3 1-1 8-2 7-1 3-0 33 221 7-6 15 Butler (HOR) 28 4 2-2 0-1 5-1 13-0 8-0 91 4 13-4 16 Tennessee 23 7 2-2 3-3 7-2 6-0 5-0 45 130 8-6 17 Georgetown 20 9 3-5 4-2 5-1 4-1 3-0 2 63 8-5 18 Temple 26 5 2-2 2-1 6-1 10-1 6-0 27 258 8-6 19 Maryland 23 7 4-4 2-1 7-1 3-1 6-0 27 258 8-6 20 Vanderbilt 23 7 1-2 6-0 8-4 5-1 2-0 29 94 9-5 21 Texas A&M 22 8 4-5 2-3 7-0 4-0 4-0 11 140 7-7 22 BYU 28 4 0-1 5-3 3-0 10-0 9-0 125 188 13-3 23 Clemson 21 9 4-4 1-3 6-2 3-0 7-0 15 245 7-7 24 Texas 23 8 2-6 3-0 9-2 4-0 5-0 39 204 8-6 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 Oakland (SUM) 26 8 0-4 0-1 0-0 6-3 18-0 191 13 13-7 54 Montana (BSky) 22 9 0-0 0-1 0-0 11-4 9-4 310 131 8-7 55 SL (Sam Hou St) 24 7 0-1 0-0 1-1 5-2 14-3 235 92 11-6 56 MAC (Ohio) 19 14 0-0 0-1 2-4 7-6 8-3 164 159 6-10 57 BW (Long Beach) 17 15 1-5 0-1 0-0 5-4 8-5 210 131 9-12 58 AE (Boston U) 19 12 0-1 0-2 1-1 3-7 15-1 245 80 10-8 59 North Texas (SB) 24 8 0-1 0-1 0-0 5-2 16-4 155 128 12-6 60 MEAC (Morgan St) 25 9 0-1 0-2 0-1 3-3 22-2 304 171 14-8 61 E Tenn St (ASun) 20 14 0-0 0-2 0-3 8-5 11-4 206 30 11-9 62 Rob. Morris (NEC) 23 11 0-1 0-1 0-3 6-5 17-2 310 131 11-8 63 Winthrop (BSth) 19 13 0-1 0-1 0-3 2-4 15-5 306 88 7-11 64 Lehigh (Pat) 21 10 0-0 0-2 0-0 1-3 20-5 328 346 7-8 65 SWAC (Ark PB) 15 15 0-2 0-4 0-2 0-3 15-4 301 1 7-14 Current unplaced teams board (28): Team W L top25 26-50 51-100 101-200 200+ SOS NCSOS R+N ------------------------------------------------------------------------- C-USA (UTEP) 24 5 0-1 1-1 9-2 4-1 10-0 145 299 9-3 Cornell (Ivy) 27 4 0-2 0-0 2-1 10-0 13-1 218 78 14-3 Florida 20 11 2-4 2-4 7-2 4-0 5-1 58 215 7-7 Florida State 22 8 1-6 4-1 8-1 3-0 6-0 24 222 9-5 Georgia Tech 19 11 2-5 1-3 6-3 3-0 6-0 12 161 5-9 Gonzaga 26 6 1-2 1-1 9-1 4-1 11-1 111 40 12-5 Illinois 18 13 3-7 1-1 5-3 6-2 3-0 13 119 6-9 Louisville 20 11 2-5 1-2 6-2 7-2 3-0 23 176 5-7 Marquette 20 10 2-6 1-2 8-1 3-1 6-0 51 294 7-6 Minnesota 18 12 3-6 0-0 4-5 6-1 5-0 47 246 4-9 Missouri 22 9 2-5 2-2 9-1 1-1 8-0 56 300 6-7 Murray St (OVC) 30 4 0-1 0-0 2-1 4-2 22-0 297 307 15-4 MWC (UNLV) 23 7 1-2 3-2 2-1 7-2 9-0 97 137 9-4 Northern IA (MVC) 28 4 0-0 1-0 8-1 13-2 5-1 114 162 14-4 Notre Dame 21 10 3-2 1-1 6-5 5-2 6-0 70 342 4-7 Oklahoma State 21 9 4-5 0-0 5-4 8-0 4-0 49 298 6-8 Old Dominion (CAA)26 8 1-1 0-2 4-3 8-1 13-0 112 33 11-8 Pac-10 (Cal) 21 9 0-3 3-2 4-2 13-2 1-0 20 10 6-8 Richmond 24 7 1-1 4-1 3-3 9-2 7-0 85 92 10-6 San Diego State 22 8 0-2 2-3 1-0 9-1 8-1 83 107 8-7 Siena (MAAC) 27 6 0-1 0-3 1-1 18-1 7-0 167 104 10-6 St. Mary's (WCC) 26 5 0-0 3-3 3-2 7-0 12-0 155 128 12-3 Virginia Tech 23 7 1-3 2-1 10-3 2-0 8-0 66 330 8-6 WAC (Utah St) 25 6 1-0 0-1 4-1 12-4 7-0 154 171 8-5 Wake Forest 19 9 3-3 2-2 7-3 1-1 6-0 9 162 6-7 Washington 21 9 2-2 1-1 3-4 14-2 1-0 57 125 4-7 Wofford (SC) 26 8 0-1 0-1 2-2 8-4 15-0 207 86 15-7 Xavier 23 7 0-4 3-3 4-0 11-0 5-0 61 19 8-7 Teams still in discussion, but currently not on the board (6): Team W L top25 26-50 51-100 101-200 200+ SOS NCSOS R+N ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Arizona State 22 9 0-5 2-1 2-2 12-1 6-0 64 161 6-6 Dayton 20 11 1-3 2-3 0-3 13-2 4-0 74 78 5-9 Mississippi 21 9 1-3 1-3 8-3 4-0 6-0 69 196 9-5 Mississippi State 21 10 0-1 3-4 7-5 5-2 6-0 86 256 9-7 Rhode Island 22 8 0-1 2-3 3-2 13-2 4-0 89 82 9-6 Seton Hall 19 11 0-6 3-3 5-2 5-0 6-0 52 323 6-7

No biggie. Do you have many issues with how things worked out?

Also, in discussion today, filling the brackets for the bottom 3 seeds (taking mostly geography into account...and the play-in game rules), and filling in the 5-6 seeds into the bracket. And, discuss the bottom of the bubble (SDSU/VT/GT/Minn vs. Seton Hall/Miss/Miss St/URI).

So, for today, I only want one list, but it'll be a large one. Send me the teams in order from the remainder of the at-large and auto-bid list (including the 4 assumed auto bid bubble teams and the 6 additional bubble teams). We'll keep an eye on potential bid thefts in the WAC (Nevada), Conference USA (Houston), SEC (Mississippi State), Atlantic-10 (Rhode Island) or ACC (NC State or Miami). The Big East (Georgetown/WVU), Big 12 (Kansas/K-State), Pac-10 (Cal/Washington), MWC (UNLV/San Diego State) and Big Ten (Ohio State/Illinois/Purdue/Minnesota) will be assured of producing an auto-bid from existing at-larges (well, potentially with Minnesota).

Here are today's results: The next 8 spots on the S-Curve (seeds 5-6): 17. Georgetown 18. Temple 19. Maryland 20. Vanderbilt 21. Texas A&M 22. BYU 23. Clemson 24. Texas The bottom 13 spots on the S-Curve (seeds 14-16b): 53. Oakland (Summit) 54. Montana (BSky) 55. Southland winner (Sam Houston State) 56. MAC winner (Ohio) 57. Big West winner (Long Beach) 58. America East winner (Boston U) 59. North Texas (Sun Belt) 60. MEAC winner (Morgan State) 61. East Tennessee St (ASun) 62. Robert Morris (NEC) 63. Winthrop (Big South) 64. Lehigh (Patriot) 65. SWAC winner (Arkansas Pine-Bluff) Now, the bubble. First, a brief explanation: there are still 10 auto bids unaccounted for among lock and bubble teams: ACC, Atlantic 10, Big East, Big 12, Big Ten, Conference USA, MWC, Pac-10, SEC and WAC. Now, only 6 of those bids can be won by teams currently in the field, so there are a maximum of 6 bubble spots available. We will go forward assuming the other 4 are won by the highest rated team left in that conference, so here are the 4 auto-bid bubble teams (with the votes they actually received in parentheses): Conference USA - UTEP (12.8) Pac-10 - California (13) MWC - UNLV (13.8) WAC - Utah State (7.6) Which leaves the 6 bubble teams voted in: Illinois (12.67) Georgia Tech (12.6) Virginia Tech (11.8) San Diego State (11) Washington (8) Minnesota (7.2) And just below the bubble cutoff: Mississippi (5.8) Seton Hall (5.2) Rhode Island (4.6) Mississippi State (4.2) Arizona State (3.4) Dayton (2.2)

It's ok, it's a very fluid process the way we do it here, I just don't want it to look like it's all just what I think personally.

My lists: Auto-bids: Bubble: Tournament 17-32:

You guys are gonna win it all, but having seen most of your games you have played really well for maybe 5 halves all year. Very odd team. The only reasonable explanation is poor coaching.

It's 8am and I got 4. Anyone else who is around can get a list to me yet while I'm compiling the info and putting together my list, which I anticipate will take until about 8:30.

Don't forget to send me those lists for tomorrow.

And now Minnesota beats Michigan State.

Just posting a reminder.

Dayton and Mississippi State looking good right now. Xavier and Florida, not so much.

Lehigh officially took the Patriot league today, so they're officially on the auto bid list.

BTN is only doing the evening games today, both with Gus Johnson and Shon Morris. Damn, was really hoping he was calling the Turner shot.

Not opposed to the changes, although I had Wisconsin a lot higher on my initial list than anyone else, too. I still think they're worthy of their spot.

For those who got a chance to watch the early games, did Gus Johnson do the calls on the Big Ten network, or does the network just have the later games?

I don't know if I'd say everyone, as Jerry Palm still has them out and John Gasaway/Joe Sheehan had them well out prior to today (and even guys who had them in like Glockner and Lunardi had them as the last team in not including the result of today's game). But now with 4 top 25 wins (3 of them away from home), it'd be difficult to envision a scenario where they don't make it, unless there are a ton of upsets in the remaining conference tourneys (say, Northwestern, Miami, Georgia, San Diego State, UCLA, Nevada, Rhode Island and Southern Miss all winning their respective tourneys). Yeah, they're in now. I was leaving them out up til this point, but they've earned the benefit of the doubt. Thing is, they're perfectly capable of beating OSU tomorrow too if the Buckeyes play like they did today. If Illinois somehow beats Ohio State and then Purdue/Michigan State in the finals, I'd have no idea where to put them in the field.

I don't know if I'd say everyone, as Jerry Palm still has them out and John Gasaway/Joe Sheehan had them well out prior to today (and even guys who had them in like Glockner and Lunardi had them as the last team in not including the result of today's game). But now with 4 top 25 wins (3 of them away from home), it'd be difficult to envision a scenario where they don't make it, unless there are a ton of upsets in the remaining conference tourneys (say, Northwestern, Miami, Georgia, San Diego State, UCLA, Nevada, Rhode Island and Southern Miss all winning their respective tourneys).

Generally, the committee tries to get teams as close to home as possible in regionals, while at the same time making an attempt to balance the bracket as much as possible. Purdue at this point is likely the lowest 2 seed. With almost zero good teams out west, the more likely scenario is to see KU paired up with the weakest 3/4 seeds to provide an overall balance to the bracket. Or, I could be wrong and Ohio State gets shipped out West and Purdue gets Midwest to keep the brackets more balanced up top.

He wasn't drafted yet, so yes.

Only about 45 picks away now!

They're not in yet, but this helps a lot. And by this I mean I think they're in, but I'm still rooting really hard for UTEP, Utah State, MWC favorites, Cal, and the ACC/SEC favorites.

This makes 4 RPI top 25 wins on the year for Illinois, more than any other bubble team and more than several "safe" teams. Three of the wins were away from home. If they don't make it I'll be disappointed, because it would mean that 2 games in Vegas in November ruined the season.