holliday, brendan ryan, ryan ludwick with runners in scoring position, joel pineiro, chris carpenter's health/performance, trever miller. but yeah they're better than people were giving them credit for. Ah, completely forgot about Pineiro. Not sure how I did that. Miller's a reliever and we all know how inconsistent they are. Carpenter was sort of due to be healthy for the majority of a season sooner or later. Holliday was obviously going to be a better player than he was in Oakland (maybe not 1.300 OPS good, but good nonetheless) and I've sort of given up on judging Ludwick. I guess what I'm trying to say is they're winning with legitimate players this year compared to the last couple of seasons.