True, I'm hearing plenty of people up here penciling the Packers into the Super Bowl. And doing it with a straight face -- no exaggeration. I still want to see that defense over the course of a season, but whatever. There's no doubt they'll be able to put up points. That makes them a dangerous team, IMO. Super Bowl might be a bit ambitious coming off a sub-.500 season, before even playing a single game. We definitely weren't as bad as our record indicated last year (and we probably weren't as good as our record indicated in 2007). In 2007, we won all of our close games with the exception of the Bears game at Lambeau. You guys blew us out, and then Dallas was blowing us out for the better part of that game before Rodgers came in to relieve Favre and we made a game out of that. Last year, we lost every single close game we had. People who don't care for Rodgers have unfairly pinned that on him, although many times it was because our defense blew it late by allowing late scoring drives. We lost back to back road games against Tennessee and Minnesota last year in the final seconds, both due to FG attempts. Of course I can't forget the blocked FG against the Bears towards the end of the year, as well. We blew a game against Carolina because we settled for 3 at the goal line instead of going for it on 4th and goal at the 1. Then Steve Smith burned our defense before they ended up winning that one. Houston, Jacksonville, Tampa, and ATL were all more than winnable games too (if our defense could have actually got a stop in the 4th). I don't think I've ever seen a season where a team had that many close games go against them. All of our wins were by double digits, with the exception of our season opener against Minnesota. Keep in mind that was against a very difficult schedule (NFC South and AFC South) as well. I think it's fair to assess with a Dom Capers led defense that the Packers should improve this year and by improvement, I mean a 4 or a 5 win turnaround. I would have loved to be in the position that the Bears are in right now. A lot of 'experts' have us going to the Super Bowl, which is kind of scary especially for a young team. I think being an under-the-radar team definitely helped us out in 2007. I'm not making predictions this year, but like I said in another thread there's about six or seven teams in the conference that can legitimately say they can win the NFC.