Wow, do you watch games? as for OBP being important, it is the single whole belief of the A's system to 9 OBP monsters...and exactly how many World Series' have they played in with that philosophy??? scoring runs matters, the other team not scoring runs matters more. OBP matters little. awesome, about time the "do you watch games" counter argument came. yes, i watch games. hitting 4 groundouts to move a runner isn't a great game. it's not the worst possible game, but it's a bad game. it'd be a good game if on one of those groundouts, he instead drove a double to score the runner, or even if he drew a walk to prolong the inning. nice try on the a's argument. it's completely irrelevant and ignorant. how many red sox world series titles did they win with "get as good an obp as possible" philosophy? The interesting question is-is an 0 for 4 game with moving a runner up 3 times better than a 1 for 4 game (with 1 single) and not moving a runner up in any of the 4 at bats. Based on game situations, the answer might be yes-it just would depend on the situations those 4 at bats came in. Again, it all depends. It's not that simple. If a guy goes 0-4, and moves a runner over 3 times and he scores each time, it depends on what else happens. If the guy scores 3 times on doubles, triples, or HRs from the guy after, or a combination of hits....it's a wasted out because if the guy had gotten on base, there would be 1 more run scored. If the guy scores on a wild pitch, balk, or something out of the offense's hands, then it's a more valuable AB. And again, that depends on if the team is winning or losing. If you're down 8-0, moving the runner isn't helping much. More times than not, giving up an out (i.e. moving runners over intentionally, sacrificing), limits your scoring. And like it or not, it is a fact that most games are NOT decided by little things.