Can someone please provide some sort of proof of how his presence on the bench is worth anything other than just spouting off the same tired line over and over? It doesn't look like him leaving Atlanta hurt them, and the Cubs haven't gotten any better since he's arrived. No pitcher has improved. Exactly what has his presence meant to this team? Is it possible that all this talk of Greg's mentoring ability was nothing but talk? Could it have just been a bunch of overhyped romanticism fueled on by the conventional wisdom of a sport that feeds on BS, myths, superstitions, good ole' day gobbledygook and the unsubstantiated subjective ramblings of a collective group of people who absolutely despise the thought of objective analysis? Eh, a lot of our pitcher's have been quoted as saying Greg's presence has helped them in their games. He's helped them with the little things. They may not have performed well, but without him, they might have been worse. I think it was Koronka or another one of the young guys that said that Greg would help them out with how to pitch certain hitters, and where their hot zones were, etc. His advice isn't worth 9 million, but it adds to his overall value, even if it's slightly. Zambrano is the most recent pitcher to say that he's learned a lot from Maddux over the past couple of seasons. They've all said similar things; you can either believe they're telling the truth or believe they're conspiring to shovel the B.S. If past performance is brought up, then contract years 1 & 2 (this year and last year) should be viewed in the context of future performance when the contract was signed. Makes the money spent much more palatable. Maddux's contract is the least of the Cubs problems.