Would you dispute that? They have been a horrible team since the all-star break last season. They made it into the playoffs in by far the worst division in baseball by one game then went on to completely outperform not only their season norms, but in many cases their career norms. That didn't make them a good team, as you of all people probably understand. It made them a dog crap team that got lucky. This is completely true. I never said they haven't been lucky in their record. I am completely willing to write it off as a fluke of luck. All the other crap has been completely unlucky to the organization. Their fault personally, but bad luck for the organization that these tools did these things. After 645.3 innings in three years, it is unreasonable to think maybe his injuries are behind him? I didn't expect anything good, that's for sure. I was just pointing out his injury is just as "unlucky" as Prior and Wood's. I don't think either are unlucky personally, I think it's genetics and overwork, but a lot of people here feel otherwise. carpenter has been on borrowed time forever, you were lucky to get what you did from him Again, not necessarily unlucky, more an illustration that bad things do indeed happen to teams not named the Cubs. A lot of people can't seem to understand that and just sit here and whine about how bad off the Cubs have had it. Duncan is complete inexplicable. You have me there for sure. I guess using the word lucky in my original post was a very poor choice of wording because it wasn't really what I meant. What I was trying to convey is that lots of bad things have happened to them despite some people's insistence on saying that the Cardinals are always lucky and god hates the Cubs or some BS. Yeah because I really wouldn't care to have Darryl Kile and a fully realized potential Rick Ankiel in our rotation. Matt Morris tearing his labrum and becoming a shell of his former self was fun for all of us Cardinals fans too. Stuff like this happens, stop whining. I'm not whining about the Cardinals misfortunes so much as I'm trying to point out to you guys that it happens to everyone. I guess self loathing is something you do better than self awareness though, so I'll let it drop.