OK, let me ask you all a question. If a player has an era of say 5 something yet continues to qualify for wins are you going to pull him out of the rotation because he has a bad ERA or WHIP? I know that wins are a team stat, but the pitcher still has to be effective enough to garner consideration for that win. And it is not like Maddux is pitching on a team that is giving him unbelievable run support on a nightly basis. Trust me he is no Kent Bottenfield :lol: (try to explain that one season to me or the Angels) And for anyone who has played sports at a competitive level knows that wins are the only thing that matter in the end. And some athletes seem to have a knack for winning with what is preceived to be subpar athleticism, talent, and "stuff." The point is Maddux is a winner. Before I get ripped to shreds, my point of view is that if a pitcher is winning games despite having an era of 5 you do not pull him out of the rotation. Moreover, if the guy has had 17 straight season of winning 15 games or more coupled with Cy Young awards and HOF credentials, you do not bench him for monetary reasons.