Cubfanintheknow

I've got it on right now!!! Pretty cool to watch. Even Paul Noce's pop out to short.

In light of the recent arrest of the packers fan on child abuse charges (in case you missed it, a father and packer fan is alleged to have taped his son to a chair and then taped a packers jersey to him during last Sunday's packer/seahawk playoff game), I felt compelled to post a link to Rick Morrisey's most recent column in the Chicago Tribune. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-080117rickmorriseypackersarrest,0,7120878.column Especially relevant to my argument is this part of the column: But the Packers part of the equation cannot be dismissed here. It's hard to picture a Jacksonville Jaguars fan getting this irate about his son's lack of commitment. In these parts, at least, it reinforces the idea that a certain amount of brainwashing is going on in Wisconsin. It might involve coercion. It might involve tape. But we're pretty sure these people have their ways. Now we don't want to paint with too broad a brush, especially with Green Bay preparing to face the New York Giants in the NFC championship game Sunday, but if one Packers fan is willing to force his child to wear a team jersey, what might another be willing to do? Call his home "The First Reformed Covenant Church of Brett" and file for tax-exempt status? Go ahead and laugh. But the general manager of the Fox affiliate in Green Bay has pulled "Seinfeld" reruns from the schedule Saturday because Giants quarterback Eli Manning is a big fan of the show. He doesn't want Manning to feel comfortable the night before the big game. A special about the late Vince Lombardi likely will take its place. So don't get mad at Kowald for being extremist when, in fact, he could be middle of the (county) road. Just reinforces what I've thought all along about packer fans. They're lunatics.

to be fair, he was found not guilty. Don't let that silly little fact get in the way of rationality. Noticed I said Chmura was charged--not found guilty. So don't let that "silly little fact" get in the way. Even though he admitted to drinking with a bunch of teenage girls (including his own child's babysitter, who accused him of raping her) in a hot tub. Those must be silly little facts, too. I think you'll find this blog on the rationality of packer fans an interesting read: Link Sweet, so just because some Packers fans support Chmura, that means all of them support him. I love assumptions. As a former member of the Fourth Estate in Milwaukee, I could tell you stories. Lots of stories. Edited to add: To be "fair" about this, the media feeds into this frenzy like no other market I've ever seen. Back in 2002, Favre sprained his knee and had to come out of the game. The following day, three of the four television stations stumbled over themselves at a press conference the following day. There was live "team coverage" telling us that Brett Favre was actually going to be OK. Especially since the packers had a bye the following week. So I got into a pretty lively discussion at the station where I worked at about how I thought this wasn't a "top story" for the 5:00 newscast. There were other stories going on in Milwaukee that merited greater attention. Although I was more than willing to concede that it would make a great story for the end of the "A" block, or the first block of stories in the newscast. I was overruled because, I was told, "Packer fans want to hear this." So not only was it the top story, we were also treated to the reaction from players, coaches, trainers and fans on favre's injury. Even though, again, doctors said he was going to be OK. And of course, there was a two minute package--complete with medical analysis--on how the knee works, where the injury occurred and what kind of treatment favre would have to endure to get back on the field. All this took up the entire "A" block and spilled over to the "B" block as well. And it was not just my station. The other three covered the event with the same insane intensity. Maybe that's why I dislike packer fans so much. Thankfully, I now work in Chicago. Wow, that was therapeutic!

to be fair, he was found not guilty. Don't let that silly little fact get in the way of rationality. Noticed I said Chmura was charged--not found guilty. So don't let that "silly little fact" get in the way. Even though he admitted to drinking with a bunch of teenage girls (including his own child's babysitter, who accused him of raping her) in a hot tub. Those must be silly little facts, too. I think you'll find this blog on the rationality of packer fans an interesting read: Link

?? The Packers have played in cold weather before. Brett is awesome in cold weather in Lambeau. Did you miss the Packers game at Soldier? The Packer's fans didn't miss that game. It just didn't count because of the following reasons that I've heard so far from the idiotic fans of the green and urine gold: 1) They just didn't want anybody getting hurt in the cold. 2) They got caught looking ahead to the playoffs. 3) The game really didn't mean anything (even though it did), so they didn't try as hard. 4) If it hadn't been for the packer's punting game, they'd have won. 5) The Bears just got lucky. Again. Any other day, the packers would have won. Believe me. I live in Wisconsin, so I've heard it all. Isnt it funny how non packer fans from wisconsin, hate the packers more than anyone. With good reason.

Amen, brotha! My hatred of Green Bay and everything that is the packers knows no bounds. Actually, I don't mind the packers much. It's their fans I can't stand. They have got to be--without a doubt--the most obnoxious breed of sports fan around. They are incapable of any rational thought when it comes to their team. They get diarrhea just thinking about how "great" their football team is. Want to know how I know this? Green Bay is the toilet paper capital of the world. Look it up! You know how annoying we find it when Sox fans say things EXACTLY like that about us. Yeah it doesn't sound any more intelligent or any less annoying when it comes from packer-haters. Not true. Not true at all. At least Sox fans will admit to having a bad team. They'll let their players know it, their coaches know it, the owner know it. I have seen packer fans defend brett favre's drug use. I've heard packer fans defend mark chmura when he was charged with raping a 17 year old girl ("they were both drunk and she consented!"). And this hasn't come from one person. This crap was talked about on the radio and on TV ad nauseum. So again, don't compare the crap Cub fans get from the White Sox with the lunacy uttered by packer fans. Ain't even close.

?? The Packers have played in cold weather before. Brett is awesome in cold weather in Lambeau. Did you miss the Packers game at Soldier? The Packer's fans didn't miss that game. It just didn't count because of the following reasons that I've heard so far from the idiotic fans of the green and urine gold: 1) They just didn't want anybody getting hurt in the cold. 2) They got caught looking ahead to the playoffs. 3) The game really didn't mean anything (even though it did), so they didn't try as hard. 4) If it hadn't been for the packer's punting game, they'd have won. 5) The Bears just got lucky. Again. Any other day, the packers would have won. Believe me. I live in Wisconsin, so I've heard it all.

Amen, brotha! My hatred of Green Bay and everything that is the packers knows no bounds. Actually, I don't mind the packers much. It's their fans I can't stand. They have got to be--without a doubt--the most obnoxious breed of sports fan around. They are incapable of any rational thought when it comes to their team. They get diarrhea just thinking about how "great" their football team is. Want to know how I know this? Green Bay is the toilet paper capital of the world. Look it up!

He had plenty of time to practice, you know! I like how he believes he should receive "the benefit of the doubt" because of all the good he's done for the community. Yep, we should all be able to buy our innocence that way.

http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/youkilis-attracted-by-slumperbuster-drink-deal-15277 Bottom's up!!! :lol:

I had completely forgotten him. Probably because he was completely forgettable. And really, really bad.

Thanks for jarring my memory. Don't know why I was typing Lloyd Pettitt when I really meant Vince Lloyd in the above posts.

Yeah, I remember Jim. He was pretty dry. But I think part of that came from the fact that Jack Brickhouse worked solo for a good portion of his career. I though he did better when Brickhouse would move over to the radio booth for the 4th, 5th and 6th innings--working alone while Lloyd took a break--and was paired with Boudreau, who would do color commentary during those same three innings for the TV side. (edited to change a name--again!)

Great topic during a slow time! Pat Hughes is fantastic. He gets high marks starting with his voice and delivery right through his knowledge of the game. And he does it all while working alongside Ron Santo. Don't get me wrong--I LOVE Santo in the radio booth. But Ronnie needs a lot of prompting to get him to deliver his commentary on the game. Hughes does it very well. For sheer entertainment, no one beats Harry. No one. This'll take a few folks back a ways, but I also enjoyed Vince Lloyd and "The Good Kid" Lou Boudreau. Lloyd also had a great voice and delivery. Boudreau was a lot like Santo. They had a good time broadcasting games. On the other end of the spectrum, Milo Hamilton put me to sleep--how the guy still has a job broadcasting games, I don't know. Chip Caray was OK. But I don't miss his terrible baseball phrases. (edited to change a name)

Let me be the first to go on record as saying "Kotex Park" would not be a very good idea.

What exactly is a natural utility man? http://www.vincekeenan.com/uploaded_images/harrington-725920.jpg Scary that it took you only three minutes to think of this guy, find his picture and post it in this thread. Very scary...

Bet they're just regurgitating the article from this morning's Tribune.

OleMissCub's list looks pretty good to me. I did a similar scan and noted the same names. Interesting, no Sosa (not that I expected his name to be all over the thing. But there's another thread I started that might cause some speculation). At first I thought the report would do nothing more than nail Bonds to the wall. But about midway through they got to the others. Mitchell did a pretty good job hammering Roger Clemens.

I think this deserves a separate thread because this involves the Cubs and not the report in general. Mods may merge if they like.

Matt Karchner had a couple things to say to George Mitchell while playing with the Cubs: "Matt Karchner pitched for two teams in major league baseball between 1995 and 2000, the Chicago Cubs and the Chicago White Sox. Members of my investigative staff contacted him as part of our effort to interview former major league players. Karchner said that during spring training, 1999, he observed two of his Chicago Cub teammates injecting themselves with steroids in an apartmant that Karchner was sharing with them. Karchner declined to identify the players. He said that one of the players brought steroids to the apartment but was afraid of needles and therefore asked the second player to administer the shot. The second player inject the first player in the buttocks with steroids and then injected himself. Later that season, Karchner was offered steroids by certain of his Cubs teammates. Karchner would not disclose the names of the players who offered him steroids, but the conversations he had involved the general costs of steroids and the discussion of "stacking" to build lean muscles necessary for pitchers. Karchner did not report either of these incidents to anyone at the time." Mitchell Report, p. 280. Several ex-Cubs have been mentioned, including Glenallen Hill, Todd Hundley and Manny Alexander. But this section will probably garner a lot of attention because Karchner didn't name anyone. Anyone care to speculate?

I know GM's are always going to put a positive spin on their decisions, including stupid ones like putting Dempster into the rotation. But to cite that he won 15 games when it happened 7 years ago (a year in which his ERA was around 5, as well)? Come on, Jim. How naive do you think fans are? See Rasin's post above. It's hard for me to critical of most public commentary these days. It's all spin. Crticize the decision on the other hand? Absolutely. Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! I think if you asked Bruce Miles, he'd tell you that while Jim Hendry tries to be as honest an upfront as he possibly can, he doesn't reveal everything. Everyone would be wise to not take Hendry's remarks completely at face value.

ESPN has just announced it's changing its call letters to YES2.

A lot of posters--myself included--would like to see Hart get a legitimate shot at a slot in the rotation because of how well he performed. No guarantees--just a good chance to prove his call-up time was no fluke. And I'd rather give this kid a chance than the alternative, which, as you know, would be another year of someone like Steve Trachsel who gets chance after chance to prove he still sucks.

30 replies to the original post and none of them deal with the original topic of the post. Guess this is what happens when your team looks lame as it's swept from the playoffs. (How about some props for the correct use of an apostrophe?)

Just looking at that schedule, I long for the days when there was only a NL East and NL West and 6 teams in each division. The Cubs would play 18 games against each NL East team and 12 games against NL West teams. The schedule was balanced for everyone. Nice and simple. Something needs to be done. There are way too many quirks. It's as if schedulers used a dart board rather than rational thinking to come up with the schedule.