I don't know, but at the end of the day, all the chest thumping over school reputation is pretty dumb. Unless your undergrad degree has a stamp on it from one of about 20 schools, they all look the same to most people. I know plenty of retards who graduated from Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, etc. KU is not Yale, but I'm pretty confident the education I received was comparable to the education most of the posters here got. Grad school is a different story, and KU does have some very highly regarded grad programs.