J.R.

I've edited my post to eliminate the perceived rip on the Neon. I actually thnk it was a good entry for DCX; they will live to rue the day they got rid of their only small sedan in favor of an SUV crossover. The SRT-4 was a kickass machine.

You Me Ronnie Woo ANYONE would do better, as you really can't do any worse than Dusty Baker when it comes to purposely blunting a ballclub's talent, repeatedly choosing mediocrity over excellence and applying old school, irrational sandlot logic to critical situations.

I was referring to the "first of the first." I'd say the rest of us will see the trucks shortly.

Can't be any worse than a Neon or a Focus :lol: You are vastly underestimating just how awful the first Chinese cars on these shores will be. The Geely will seem luxurious when compared to the Neon, but the old 20-20 rule will apply - like most butterfaces, it will only seem nice from 20 feet away and at 20 mph. EDIT: Somehow I managed to delete the last part of my post. I've bolded the restored part.

"Available January 10", my butt. Anywho, I have yet to see one in person, but my dealer seems to think I should have it within 2 weeks. JOY! Where do you live? I've heard that the initial allocations went to dealerships in Michigan and Texas.

That's awesome; I haven't seen one on the road yet, but it looks outstanding in the photos.

did you know that Chrysler is a German company? Why do you think I got rid of 'em?

The Chicago sports press is, by and large, an absolute disaster. Baker and this organization's ridiculous fascination with Neifi Perez should be taken to task in print every day.

I like them, except that (1) Sleeveless jerseys are for T-Ball. (2) They ditched the striped stirrups, a Cardinal staple. Why go old school while ditching an old school element?

She's a real beauty! http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/060109/060109_geeley_hmed.hmedium.jpg That's gross. Someone mentioned that it carries the spirit of Yugo within its accursed frame - beach towel upholstery, keys that break off in the ignition, etc.

I guarandamntee it. Then I'll hate him even more.

Cosigned.

That's disgraceful.

And it's worth every penny. No baseball fan should be without it. Satellite television is a wonderful thing.

Current: 2005 Cadillac CTS, 1976 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, 1997 Oldsmobile Regency, 1994 Oldsmobile Eighty Eight LSS. Past: 2001 Chrysler 300M, 2001 Chrysler Sebring coupe, 1998 Chevrolet Malibu, 1972 Pontiac Bonneville. Toyota's PR machine is the most impressive thing about their company, IMHO. There are plenty of nimrods walking around out there who think Toyota is an American outfit, and that all they make are hybrids with exhaust fumes that cure cancer and smell like lilacs.

FYI, the Tribute is essentially a Ford Escape, and the LeMans, assuming it was the hatchback model, was a Daewoo for all intents and purposes. You can't tell the players without a scorecard ... Your experience with the Blazer is typical. You can always find a buyer for a 4x4.

No one wants to hear about hardy GMs or fragile Toyotas.

I figure Perez will be on the field for approximately 155 instances, which is 155 too many. Dusty sucks.

Roll - out - those Lazy-hazy-crazy days of summer, Those days of soda and pretzels and beer. Roll - out - those Lazy-hazy-crazy days of summer, You'll wish that summer could always be here. HELL YES

Here's an excellent, unbiased look at the state of the auto industry. It's from last month's Playboy, but the link is family-friendly. It's a bit of a long read, but I think anyone with an interest in this discussion would enjoy it.

I'm a student of the auto industry. I've spent time in makes from just about every manufacturer doing business in this country ... I've had more than my fair share of exposure to Honda and Toyota products. As another Asian notable, Sun Tsu, said - "know thine enemy as thyself." That's fostered my intense study of models from foreign sources as a supplement to my fascination with the American automakers. I'm amazed at the ease with which fans of foreign cars and the American media - two supposedly seperate entities which are really one and the same in practice - dismiss the JD Power surveys, which use a much better statistical base than Consumer Reports. I think some people are afraid their heads would explode if they ever accepted the notion that American cars don't suck donkey balls. I think the Prizm's had Toyota engines in them. I'm certainly not surprised it has 225k and is still running. Yes they did. the Prizm was just a rebadged Corrolla. Now they have the Pontiac Vibe/Toyota Matrix that are the same base car. Interesting, I didn't know that about the Vibe and Matrix. Why would Pontiac want to team with Toyota and vice versa? So are the Vibe and Matrix mostly a GM product or Toyota? The Vibe and Matrix' mechanicals are mostly Toyota-derived, and the electronics came from GM; styling work was completed by Pontiac and Toyota for their respective models. They're both assembled on the same line at the NUMMI plant in California. Incidentally, the Vibe outsells the Matrix by a considerable margin. Most GM fans, like myself, think it's time for this partnership to end. NUMMI was started in the mid-80's, back when GM was looking for a competitive entry into the small-car class (Nova/Corolla), and Toyota was looking for help in constructing a plant on U.S. soil. IMHO both companies now do well on their own, on both counts. The arrangement has allowed GM to learn much about Toyota's lean manufacturing techniques, and in the end, I think GM got the better of the deal. But the lessons have been learned at this point, and the situation makes GM look weak in the minds of many. Time to get out. The Honda engines used in the VUE are the result of an arrangement in which GM gets the motors in exchange for providing Honda with diesels for use in Europe. This too, IMHO, is a needless alliance which makes GM look weak in this market, as no one ever hears about the GM-powered Hondas and assumes that GM went begging for the Honda unit because it couldn't come up with one on its own.

That's awesome.

Huge tactical error.

Is it too much to expect to have attractive chicks in the ads we'll see over and over and over? This is what happens when ugly women are put in charge of stuff. Spoken like a true.....nah, I won't go there :lol: Go ahead, I'll probably like it.

Is it too much to expect to have attractive chicks in the ads we'll see over and over and over? This is what happens when ugly women are put in charge of stuff.