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No disrespet to Mr. Miles, but how is Chicago any different? In fact, I've listened to both and NY is much more credible than Chicago in terms of sports talk. But as I said, only time will tell. I guess untill or if he is traded we can all have fun talking about it.

Why do you say that? Teams trade withing the division all the time. Sean Casey, the Captian of the Reds was just traded to Pittsburgh for a left handed pitcher. The Mets are most definately a player for Tejada. The sports talk radio here is polluted with the rumors. I've read numerous reports all saying that there is no way Angelos trades Tejada to Boston, period. And I've read numerous reports all saying that there is no way Angelos trades Tejada, period. Only time will tell.

Why do you say that? Teams trade withing the division all the time. Sean Casey, the Captian of the Reds was just traded to Pittsburgh for a left handed pitcher. The Mets are most definately a player for Tejada. The sports talk radio here is polluted with the rumors.

all the tobacco chewing.

I agree, but who is to say Abrue wouldn't cost just as much?

Why would we do that? Where is Tejada going to go that it will benefit us in a 3-way trade? Not Philly. Not Cincy. Not Texas. The only way the Cubs would give Stockstill some of his prospects is if the Cubs were to get Tejada. Otherwise those pieces would be used to get us a stud RF who couldn't come in a Tejada 3-way. Cubs gets: Manny Boston gets: Tejada Baltimore gets: A crap load of near ready major league pitchers.

Yes all players are evaluvated by how much they make relative to their production. Professional baseball is a busines. What does Sammy Sosa have to do with Miguel Tejada? I took your previous post to mean that Tejada was a great player because he made more money than other players at his position. Hence, the reference to Sammy (not a great player last year, despite making tons of money). I may have misunderstood you, if so, I apologize. I guess I don't understand the point of this statement: Are you saying that we can't argue that Tejada isn't a top 10 player because his contract is reasonable compared to contracts signed by other SS's (Furcal, for example)? If you want to argue that Tejada gives you the most "bang for your buck" so to speak - that's one thing. But if you're talking simply the top 10 players in the league (which I think was the question), why does it matter what he's paid? This is realted to my last post. It matters because even if money were not an object an owner couldn't fill his team with the best nine players. That is not the case with pitchers though (the owner could acquire the best 5 starting pitchers, if money were not an object). For example both Manny and Bonds play left field and Vlad plays right, but none of them could play center (maybe Vlad could but that is stretching things a good deal) So when I talk about the "best" I am saying the best at one's position. Now one could argue that Tejada isn't the best at his position. But given his production for the money he makes in relation to Jeter, Rodriguez, Furcal, Renteria, Eckstein, Garciparra, and others he is right there.

I guess I should make myself more clear. I would rate players by position b/c that I how I see it. To me the best nine players would all play different positions. The reason beying I couldn't put Barry Bonds at SS or Jason Veritek in CF. I agree he is not worth writing a blank check to acquire too. So I don't think Z or Prior should be traded for him. But I would certianly part with any three or four minor leaguers (including Williams, Murton, and Cedeno) for him. Something like this Baltiomore's pick of: 2 pitchers + 2 position players 1 pitcher + 3 position players ------ A bit off topic, but I have to think that signing Pierre makes Pie more expendable. I'm not saying I agree with it at all or even a little.

Yes all players are evaluvated by how much they make relative to their production. Professional baseball is a busines. What does Sammy Sosa have to do with Miguel Tejada?

It is a fine filler story in the middle of the winter to help us starving baseball fans. Maybe I'm too critical. In fact, I am too critical. However it is not news. And again, and for the final time, the story could have been written about anyone. I would love to read a story about what Patterson is doing to try to rebound from his horific season. About what he is thinking about his appearent departure from the Cubs. About his decision not to play winter ball. To me that would have been much more interesting. They could have spun it anyway they want to.

I think a pretty good arguement could be made that he is not one of the top ten players in the game. If he is not he is close. And he is the best SS in professional baseball, until Rodriguez decides he wants to play short again. Tejada was 39th in MLB in OPS, and he plays average at best defense. And what were his offensive numbers compared to other SS? I'll take average defense with the numbers he puts up. You are going to have to break off this obsession you have with demonstrating that Tejada isn't that good. It does not hold water, especially given his contract in compairson other top of the line SS.

I think a pretty good arguement could be made that he is not one of the top ten players in the game. If he is not he is close. And he is the best SS in professional baseball, until Rodriguez decides he wants to play short again.

It is a puff piece becuase it is not news, nor is it news worthy. In addition, it could have been writtten about the vast majority of all professional baseball players. As I wrote, what would people be saying if the story was about Patterson rather than Pierre? Patterson spent last offseason in Mesa working out so he would be ready for the 05 season. A fat lot of good that did him. Whether I like the trade is competly irrelevent. I find it beyond my scope to comunicate how foolish it is to think that professional athelets don't work hard. The people that fit the profile I bolded in your above post usually don't stay around long no matter how much talent they have. Nor would they ever make it to the majors.

The Mets are said to be intrested too. I think they could put a package together that could compete with the Cubs. However, if Anehiem wants to part with a few of the studs they have on the farm no team will be able to compete.

C'mon, don't take things out of context! It's pretty much saying, "If, in the unlikely event that Miguel Tejada is traded, the Cubs are the early frontrunners." I guess that may be viewed as optimistic, but I was really expecting something else when I read the topic title/message... So the real early favorite is Baltimore? :D Weren't the Cubs the early fav for Furcal?

I am confident in my assumption that the puff piece written about Pierre could have been written for just about any professional ballplayer. They all work hard to get to where they are whether they be the lowest guy in A ball or a perenial all-star in the majors. What would people say if one changed the name from Juan Pierre to Corey Patterson? EDIT: Working hard is a pre-requisit for the job. I wish someone would have told Bush that 6 years ago.

I agree with that point, BUT look at the state that leaves Houston's pen in. They have nobody. It's no worse than the state of their offense. If Clemens doesn't come back, it could be a long season for the Astros even if they trade Lidge for a bat.

This is a smart move IMO. "Closers" are the most overvalued commidity in baseball.

Slappy and Red

Let the propaganda machine begin.

Would Hildalgo accept a bench job? Would Dusty know he is a bench player? I like those two for the bench.

I agree Vance. I think Pittsburgh is going to be better than last year too. If the Cubs don't land Tejada or a big bat for the outfield I will be very worried about fighting it out for last place with Cincinnatti.

Choi would be a middle class version of Adam Dunn if a team would give him 500 PAs in a season.

To the Moderators, Is there anyway to condence these three threads?

Because she knows more about sports than me and is hot. She is not just a talking head like the others. You can talk sports and have fun in the bedroom all at the same. That is a win/win in my book, fellas! :D