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Then you haven't been watching Lou for the past 1 1/2. Pie is the rule. Theriot is only playing b/c there is no one else Lou is comfortable with (read, no vet). Barrett was a very dumb baseball payers and an even worse defensive catcher, Soto has produced. And even then it took them almost an entire year of Koye Hill and Rob Bowen to give him a shot. With Lou, if you're a first or second year player you better produce right away and you better not make any mistakes because you only get one shot. He's as old school as they come. The difference between Dusty and Lou is that Lou lives in a reality based world and Dusty doesn't. Your post is illogical and full of baseless spin. I'll take your assertions one at a time, and also point out some stuff you chose to leave out: 1) Theriot didn't get the job because no one else was on the roster. Theriot replaced Izturis, a marginal verteran. 2) Soto replaced veterans. The notion that Soto should have gotten a shot earlier than he did ignores the fact that, up until last season, he hadn't done anything to indicate he would be a good ML catcher. 3) Fontenot played 2B for quite a long time last season and has played quite a bit this season is pite of his struggles at the plate (hitting .230, last I looked). 4) Cedeno is on the team and has played well, getting spot starts at both MIF positions and being sent up to PH in crucial situations. He is blocked by a Theriot, not by some marginal vet like Izturis, Neifi or Macias. 5) Marmol is argauably the most important pitcher on the staff. Lou shows great faith in him, even when he struggles a bit. 6) When Hoff was up he played, and played quite a bit. The only reason he is down now is b/c Ward came off the DL. And who the hell cares if Lou is "old school"? What the hell does that even mean? Just last week he was going on about how good someone's OBP is and how important that is. If "old school" means what I think you intend it to mean, then no, Lou is not "old school". It's such a dumb, throw-away term. Right up there with calling every small, white, MIF'er "gritty". I'm not going to refute your points one by one, I'll just say this. The difference between Lou and Dusty is that Lou knows crap when he sees it. Theroit got a shot after Isturis sucked for more than a year (some Dusty time too) Soto was producing in the minors for over a year and was a better player than Hill when they brought Hill up to catch. Lou has little patience for young players that make mistakes, he demonstrated that over and over again. If you don't think Lou is old school than you haven't seen him fill out a line-up card or payed much attention to how he and Larry handles a pitching staff. There is nothing necessarily wrong with that approach as long as he has the right tools with which to implement it.

DuBois wasn't a highly regarded prospect was he? I always saw him as better than Todd Hollinsworth. I didn't pay attention to prospects until I found this place so my list is confined and short Bobby Hill Hee Sop Choi Brian Dopirak Ryan Harvey Current Contender: Jeff "jump the Shark" Samardzija http://www.jeff-samardzija.com/ (Don't skip the Intro. The eyes, they pierce. He so dreamy) He's probably the most over-hyped Cub prospect I've ever known, which isn't saying much.

Didn't they have mullett night a few years ago. Then there's the father and son smoke all the crack you can before a game beat the 1st base coach night.

Then you haven't been watching Lou for the past 1 1/2. Pie is the rule. Theriot is only playing b/c there is no one else Lou is comfortable with (read, no vet). Barrett was a very dumb baseball payers and an even worse defensive catcher, Soto has produced. With Lou, if you're a first or second year player you better produce right away and you better not make any mistakes because you only get one shot. He's as old school as they come. The difference between Dusty and Lou is that Lou lives in a reality based world and Dusty doesn't. I don't think Lou is "as old school as they come".... The Cubs organization as a whole is in win-now mode. The organizational viewpoint is that now isn't the time to exercise patience or give young, blossoming players the appropriate time to develop at the big league level. :scratch: You can scratch your head all you want but the logic of your post makes little sense to me.. If the Cubs are in a win now mode Then Lou should Play Murton in LF until Soriano comes back. If the Cubs are in a win now mode Then they shouldn't play young players out of position and then have a hissy when they make a mistake. It's almost a law of physics that players playing out of position will make mistakes. If one puts in player whose played infield almost his entire life in the outfield one is almost guaranteeing that mistakes will happen.

Then you haven't been watching Lou for the past 1 1/2. Pie is the rule. Theriot is only playing b/c there is no one else Lou is comfortable with (read, no vet). Barrett was a very dumb baseball payers and an even worse defensive catcher, Soto has produced. And even then it took them almost an entire year of Koye Hill and Rob Bowen to give him a shot. With Lou, if you're a first or second year player you better produce right away and you better not make any mistakes because you only get one shot. He's as old school as they come. The difference between Dusty and Lou is that Lou lives in a reality based world and Dusty doesn't.

I mentioned this is in another thread about the importance of outcome. Playing players out of position because they are "versatile" may seem like a good idea on the surface but it will sometimes result in poor play. Eric Patterson is NOT an outfielder, he's a 2nd baseman. His problems are a result of playing a position his is not suited for. People shouldn't get made at Eric, they should get mad at Lou. I think Lou now knows that Patterson isn't a LFer, at least not yet. He still has time to learn.

YIKES

I just drove home from work. While driving I was listening to the Sox feed with Farmer and Stone. Now that I'm watching Bob, I really miss Stone. He's simply better than Bob. It's really no comparison.

Actually, this series is part of that 10-game road trip. After this series they will have 7 games on the road. Was it over when the German bombed Pearl Harbor?!

Indeed and any other prospect as well. Gallagher, "The Shark", Veal, Pie, Murton, Patterson, Colvin, Rhee, let them take their pick of any two or three.

F the sox, GO CUBS! 10 day road trip after this series. This is where the Cubs demoralize the division rivals or let them back in it.

Rose is a good kid. I am happy for him. Hopefully he's a good professional basketball player too.

2007 Cubs +62 2007 DBacks -20 The Brewers don't have the benefit of playing in the NL west. Or having a lights out late inning relieving corps.

I bet he was thinking, "Hey, Lou! Stop smacking your lips so much!" :D

It's a terrible piece of garbage. A lot of players don't want to know. Those that do can't hit the ball if it is located. What a load of crap. How about all the other teams that win at home?

I still like EPat for 2nd base. DeRosa ain't cutting the mustard. Last 7 days .111 .238 .111 .349 Last 14 days .195 .283 .195 .478 Last 28 days .221 .299 .390 .688

I still like him for 2nd base.

Lou is hard headed but not dumb. This move should have been made after Spring Training.

I wonder how much the running off at the mouth by the Sox has affect the Cubs. They sure do seem intent on making a statement

Yep. The Cardinals are outperforming their predicted adjusted record by 5.7 wins and 'should be' a .500 team. Though, the Cubs are also a bit 'lucky' and should be 3.3 games worse than they currently are. The whole NL Central is outplaying its numbers. NL Central Current Predicted Standings w/ (AE)RS/(AE)RA (above/below actual record difference) Cubs 46-29 (+3.3) Cardinals 38-38 (+5.7) Brewers 37-37 (+2.7) Reds 35-41 (0.0) Astros 34-41 (+0.5) Pirates 30-45 (+5.8) I've written it before but it bears repeating. The correlations you are reporting have extremely low predictive value with such small sample sizes. What the Cubs or any other team "should" do is what they have done to this point. Pyth. record as statistic has @.03 correlation to actual wins until around 120 games. Edit: That's not to say that having a + sized run differential isn't a good thing, because it is. The bigger the better.

Because they might be WS contenders if they get him. They are like 19-6 over their last 25 games. Also, I don't think they will have to trade away all their talent. Their system is loaded and they have good young ballplayers at the ML level. They could trade Weeks or Hall too.

That was the funniest thing I've read on here in a long time. Well done.

Interesting to see how that impacts the roster moves. You have Marshall and Ward ready to come up in the next 3-4 days. If Reed goes to the DL, what's the other roster move? It will be interesting to see if they feel that Patterson needs to be up, or do they keep Hoffpauir and feel comfortable with Fukudome and Cedeno as the two backups in CF to a slightly injured Jim Edmonds. Would they consider Pie? Should they? With Edmonds he's kind of superfluous, but Lou likes him some defense in the late innings.

It is. Thus making this one of my new favorite pictures. It's my desk top.

They are busting him inside but he's not swinging unless he's down in the count. He's a smart baseball player (always has been), I'm sure he knows his limitations.