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completely wrong Something is wrong with FirstInning.com's stats then: http://firstinning.com/players/Eric-Patterson-a vs http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?n=Eric%20Patterson&pos=2B&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=452221 yeah i don't know what those numbers represent, but it certainly isn't caught stealing.

completely wrong

Shelley Duncan and Jeff Karstens?!?!? Unless the other prospect is named Philip Hughes, that has to be a joke.

The Cube still lists his position as catcher. BTW, note who's sponsoring his page on the Cube. :D Incorrectly, apparently :lol:

too bad ryan harvey can hit the ball far on the rare occasions that he makes contact... otherwise we might've tried this with him a while ago

Mind you, that's a play that Theriot very well might have needed to dive at just to get to. As such, there's no guarantee he would have made an error. Better range gives more chances to make "errors." The notion that Cedeno is seemingly head and shoulders faster than Riot is ridiculous, Cedeno barely has the advantage. Theriot has faster pure speed, but Cedeno has better agility and instincts. Baserunning speed doesn't have much to do with an infielder's range.

from the looks of it, he already knows

yeah, he could find it by searching out Marty McFly and hitching a ride in his DeLorean back to 1999

What? Wasn't he a catcher until the middle of the 2005 season? no, i think he converted in 2002

no, that was J.D. Drew, and I'm proud to say that I was at that game.

Is this the bacon cheeseburger served with krispy kreme donuts as the bun? Yes... what do you think, thumbs up or down?

"Baseball's Best Burger" this sounds nauseating or delicious, i can't decide. Either way, it's a heart attack on a plate.

Jamey Wright has been too injured, and not bad enough when he's been healthy. Wandy Rodriguez has, against all odds, turned into a decent pitcher. Randy Winn has somehow managed to improve at age 33. I really shoulda stuck with Juan Pierre over Willy Taveres. Pods is killing almost everyone by not playing enough. Adam Everett was having a monster year, but he got hurt. Geoff Blum hasn't gotten as much PT as I'd hoped. Jose Lopez and Rich Aurilia have been solid picks... especially Aurilia, who's #2 to Nomar in ESPN.

yes i can definitely confirm this (him not being liked in philly) To be fair, is there anybody that the Philly fans like? And not just the Phillies either, I'm talking any of their sports teams. Yeah, they even booed Mike Schmidt... And Santa, and Michael Irvin as he was being carted off after breaking his neck... they booed santa claus because he was hammered

Thank God this game is ESPN so that i don't have to watch the game on mute on my computer again.

Performance-wise, Lilly is right there with those guys. OK...performance wise in the weak NL. Who would you rather have going in Game 2 of a series? Give me those AL guys who can have no-hit stuff on any given night. so can rich hill

Um, this is tomorrow's thread. :D maybe this will all happen again!!!

you can't win with that argument on this board. i've tried to explain that our favorite beleagured radio color man wasn't even one of the top 3 players on his own team, but have been shouted down ad nauseum and oh look, the other three guys who were "better than him" - even though when you take positional differences into account, Ronnie was probably just as good as Billy Williams - are in the Hall of Fame! And if you don't think Ronnie was ever the best player on his team, I suggest you review the team stats from 1964, 1966 and 1967. In 1969 he was arguably the best player on the team (Hands and Jenkins also come into play there). Roy Campanella Gil Hodges Jackie Robinson Pee Wee Reese Duke Snider Which two are we kicking out of the Hall of Fame?

Nothing I said had anything to do with if Murton was a perceived upgrade in RF or not. You could put a trash can out there and it'd even catch a few fly balls and take a few walks. The point is, is that Murton has no place on this team, or arguably any team, assuming we are talking about him playing a starting RF. His skills are not sufficient for a position that historically demands offense. If he was a 4th OF for us, which he will end up being for someone anyway, I'd be fine with that. We'd be better served to ship him off for relief help or something though. People just love him because he's white, red-haired, seems to be a "good guy", says all the PC things, fulfills your fantasies of a Chicago A's or Chicago Blue Jays team, and generally is just a pet project of 90% of this board. All I have to do is say Murton sucks and I'm called clueless, that says it all to me. No other player on this stupid franchise generates more personal attacks than Murton. It's not even close. Now THATS clueless. It also should be noted that the 7th most comparable player ever to Murton is freakin' Ryan Church. Also, since low A ball, he has never posted a SLG% over .425. And this is a corner OF we're talking about. Just sayin. Please, enlighten us with who you'd like in RF most of the time. Assuming the Cubs don't make a trade, who should get most of the playing time in RF?

It did. http://www.firejoemorgan.com/search/label/phil%20mushnick ah... i figured they'd make fun of him some more, but i guess they do that enough in the JoeChats.

<------- disappointed that FJM hasn't weighed in yet

Patterson doubles to finish with 3 singles, a double, triple and 4 RBI. By the way, apparently Dave Veres (:lol:) pitched for Colorado Springs

All times CST (being Midwest-friendly here!) 2:05: Padres - J. Germano (6-4, 3.77) @ Rockies - A. Cook (6-6, 4.37) 6:05: Nationals - M. Chico (4-6, 4.65) @ Phillies - C. Hamels (11-5, 3.69) 6:10: Brewers - J. Suppan (8-8, 4.92) @ Reds - K. Lohse (5-12, 4.71) 7:05: Dodgers - D. Lowe (8-9, 3.48) @ Astros - M. Albers (2-4, 5.76) 8:40: Marlins - S. Olsen (8-7, 4.99) @ D'backs - B. Webb (8-8, 3.38) 9:05: Braves - C. James (8-7, 3.58) @ Bondses - N. Lowry (10-7, 3.55) Go bad teams playing the good teams we want to lose!

Make sure we leave Petrick out of the mix! If we have to mix another starter in the trade maybe throw Marshall or Hill in there to get the deal done. One last thing we need to get something beside Tex, we would need another minor leaguer or two like we got in the Nomar deal with Murton. Throw in Marshall or Hill, but whatever you do, don't include Petrick??? yeah, minor leaguers are overvalued to an absurd degree by some people on this board. If there was an nsbb.com 10 or 15 years ago, people would've been demanding the world for Gary Scott, Lance Dickson and Mike Harkey.

yes i can definitely confirm this (him not being liked in philly)