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  • A Trade a Day: Should the Cubs Trade Cody Bellinger to the Twins?


    Matt Trueblood

    This is one of the best times of year for baseball fans. Races for the postseason are just starting to percolate and gather heat, but just as excitingly, the trade deadline looms. The Cubs need to be active at this year's deadline, one way or the other. Let's talk about a potential trade that would send star center fielder Cody Bellinger up north.

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    Today's is the first in a series of pieces we'll do as the deadline approaches, featuring mock trades that could make sense for the Cubs under various circumstances. Check North Side Baseball daily for more, and jump into the discussion by leaving your opinion in the comments.

    With two home runs in the first game after the All-Star break Friday night, we can officially declare Cody Bellinger to be on a heater. He's hitting .302/.357/.518 for the season, with 11 homers and 11 steals. He's making contact at almost exactly the rate at which he did so when he won the 2019 NL MVP award. He's played plus defense both in center field and at first base, and it's been a joy to watch him play. Even beyond the steals, he runs the bases well and aggressively. In the field, he doesn't just track down fly balls well, but charges singles and returns them to the infield quickly. He uses his speed and his strength well in every dimension and facet of the game.

    Alas, we have to be realistic. Once the Cubs locked Ian Happ in for three more years with their April extension, it got a lot harder to fit Bellinger into the team's long-term plans. He's having exactly the season he and Scott Boras hoped he would have, which means that he'll hit the market this winter seeking almost exactly the deal he and Scott Boras envisioned a few years ago, before injuries sidetracked him for multiple seasons. The Cubs have too many other needs and too much other money committed to pay what Bellinger will cost beyond 2023. 

    Even if one were of the mind to move Seiya Suzuki (eating a sizable share of his contract, in the process), it might be tough to justify retaining Bellinger. Unless the team finds such an enticing trade target that they elect to trade Pete Crow-Armstrong now, he's their center fielder of the future, and the future figures to begin on Opening Day 2024. To re-sign Bellinger would mean paying him more than several teams will surely be willing to pay for a star-caliber center fielder, while intending to stow him away in right field. Bellinger has the arm for that, and maybe playing right would keep him a bit healthier over the course of a long deal, but it's tough to make the value match up in that kind of situation.

    The next question, then, is whether it's worth retaining Bellinger for the rest of the year, making him a Qualifying Offer, and accepting draft pick compensation when he departs in free agency. If the Cubs climb back into the division race over the coming fortnight, that's an easy call. If they fall farther back, it's equally easy, although painful. Right now, as they struggle to get out of neutral and the clock slowly ticks down toward August 1, it's tough.

    On one hand, the team would absolutely get more in a trade than the draft pick they'd get for Bellinger is worth, and the chance that trading him is the thing that torpedoes what could otherwise be a winning or playoff season feels vanishingly small. On the other hand, even the remote chance that the team will turn things around is worth preserving, for as long as it exists. Dealing Bellinger before that candle flickers out would be a betrayal of the team's responsibility to do its best for the fans and for its own players. 

    All that said, though, perhaps there's a deal worth making, anyway, because it could be nearly a wash in the short term and a profitable one in the longer term. The Minnesota Twins have a major need, and Bellinger could fill it perfectly--if the price is right.

    For those unfamiliar with the particulars of the 2023 Twins, it's pretty simple. They have an elite pitching staff, but they can't hit. In particular, they're hurting for production in center field, where shuffling Byron Buxton to designated hitter has left Michael A. Taylor as the everyday starter, and they're not getting enough out of first base. Alex Kirilloff, their 2016 first-round pick, has just four homers in 204 plate appearances. That was to be expected, as he's always been hit over power and has dealt with multiple wrist surgeries already in his young career. However, he's also striking out almost a quarter of the time, which is uncharacteristic and concerning.

    Bellinger would fit like a glove (er, and a bat) into the Twins' lineup. He could play some center field and some first base for them. His contact skills would be a balm to the league's most strikeout-prone offense. In a weak AL Central, he could be the difference-maker who get the Twins over the top.

    For the Cubs to give him up, though, the Twins would have to be willing to pay. There will be several other suitors, and the Cubs' playoff dreams (however faint) and the option of giving him a QO give them some leverage, anyway. Happily, Minnesota has a solid farm system, and several recent graduates of it who might be available even on their big-league roster. It's unlikely that the Cubs would have much interest in Trevor Larnach or Matt Wallner, who have good upside as left-handed sluggers but also show plenty of warts, and who only play the corner outfield spots. Again, having Happ and Suzuki locked in (even if only monetarily) makes adding another corner-only outfielder a tricky proposition.

    However, the Twins have a few other young hitters who could have immense appeal to the Cubs, as part of a Bellinger. One is the aforementioned Kirilloff, who (despite the problems described above) has a 117 wRC+ for the season. He's drawing walks and collecting singles at a fine rate, and with more development, he could turn into an above-average first baseman, albeit one more in the lineage of Sean Casey or Wally Joyner than in the traditional slugger's mold. Another is Jose Miranda, who's taken a massive step backward this year and just hit the injured list with a shoulder problem, but who looked like a cornerstone of the team's lineup for the future just a few months ago.

    Miranda is considerably further from free agency, and it's unlikely that the Twins would want to move him in exchange for a player who will leave after this year. They could be more open to a Kirilloff trade, though, because he's due to become eligible for arbitration via Super Two after this season. If the Cubs do land Kirilloff, they could also probably persuade the Minnesota front office to throw in an extra arm from the lower levels of their farm, especially by offering to pay down the remaining money owed to Bellinger.

    Slot Kirilloff into the lineup as the first baseman, and the Cubs' offense doesn't take a terrible hit for the loss of Bellinger. The downgrade is real, but it's not crippling, and center field would become an open space on the lineup card. In the very short term, that could be filled by Mike Tauchman, but by the middle of August, it could be time to stick Crow-Armstrong out there. His speed and defense would be worth the potential for some offensive struggles, especially if the Cubs fall out of the race by then, and the audition would give them a better sense of how much they need to pad their lineup for 2024. If Crow-Armstrong hit the ground running, the team could even come out ahead from the exchange.

    Four years of a usable first baseman--even one with a spotty health track record and a dearth of power--would be a steep price for the Twins to pay for Bellinger, and they might prefer not to take such a gamble on this one season. On the other hand, that front office is under mounting pressure to deliver a return on the team's ownership's record-level investment in the roster, first by reaching the playoffs, and then by breaking their nearly two-decade drought without a playoff victory. Kirilloff would be a good get for the Cubs, but an alternative to that form of the deal could be just as interesting.

    The Twins have a pair of starters showing well in Double-A Wichita, in David Festa and Marco Raya. Festa is a bit of a Ben Brown clone: big, hard-throwing, and with a good three-pitch mix that should make him a mid-rotation starter in the big leagues soon. Raya is much smaller, but still uses a riding heater to miss bats and set off a three-pitch arsenal. Those two are the kinds of arms the Cubs still need to stockpile, especially with the likely departure of Marcus Stroman and the increasing likelihood that they won't be able to rely on Kyle Hendricks or Drew Smyly beyond the end of this season. Getting both for Bellinger is a pipe dream, but getting either would be a solid return.

    Bellinger is a unique player on the market. If he stays hot for the balance of this month, and if the Cubs still decide to trade him, he should command a very handsome price. The Twins are a great fit, and there's at least one form of that transaction that wouldn't even make the Cubs materially worse in the short term.

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    This trade could make a lot of sense, as the Twins need Bellinger's bat and while they don't have much top-end prospect talent, they have quite a bit of prospect depth that's good for swapping for rental players.

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    37 minutes ago, Rex Buckingham said:

    I don't think a non-power 1B is appealing for the Cubs when we've already got corner outfielders who don't hit for much power and a hole at 3B

    It really depends how Kirilloff's wrist is viewed. If his wrist is healed and he returns to previous performance, he's not without power, he's just a line-drive power guy. 15-20 homers with a balanced offensive approach. Decent average, decent discipline, decent power.

    If his wrist never gets right, he's suddenly the powerless first base guy who will rely more on average and discipline to stay in baseball.

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    I don't think there is a realistic trade with the Twins where I wouldn't be very disappointed for a guy who is likely the most valuable position player available at the deadline. 

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    58 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

    This is the kind of content we get when a Twins fan buys NSBB 😁

    Honestly, I’d hate Bellinger for Kirilloff as a Twins fan and jump all over it from the Cubs perspective. If Kirilloff’s wrist is right, he’s an AMAZING hitter, the kind of hitter who can thrive even more in a shift restricted environment.

    Maybe his wrist ain’t right. But I’d roll the dice on that for sure. 

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    They don’t have a 1B in the system so why not keep him and play him there? Not to mention, PCA is no guarantee to hit at the major league level. 

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    14 minutes ago, jersey cubs fan said:

    They don’t have a 1B in the system so why not keep him and play him there? Not to mention, PCA is no guarantee to hit at the major league level. 

    This is the thing people keep missing, imo, as they advocate for extending Bellinger: he’s hitting free agency. He *has* agency. They can’t just keep him and tell him he’s a first baseman. There’s no way they can pay him as much to play first base as someone will pay him to play center field, so he’s not going to come back to be the first baseman. Again, I could see a scenario (albeit a wild one) where they keep Bellinger, but it’d have to involve either getting a stunning opportunity to cash PCA in for a present-tense star or an even more unlikely trade of Happ or Suzuki. I know no one wants to think of it this way, but extending Happ closed off most realistic avenues to retaining Cody, and anyway, you’re not gonna get him to sign some pre-market extension. He only comes back at the going rate in free agency, which would hamstring them as they try to find a legit slugger and/or new front of the rotation pieces (unless that weird scenario where Happ or Suzuki and their money find a new home does come to fruition).

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    To put Alex Kirilloff in context a bit, he's still only 25 years old. In 2019, he was BA's #15 prospect, MLB's #9 prospect, and BP's #39 prospect.

    In 2020, he didn't play because of the pandemic.

    Through 2021-2022, he kept suffering wrist injuries. He's still that guy who was so highly ranked, it's just a matter of whether he recovers from two years of wrist difficulties. He hasn't "failed" at the MLB level so much as he hasn't gotten runway as a healthy player for a long time.

    That's why I'd dislike this trade for the Twins and really like it for the Cubs. I'd bet on Kirilloff for a rental almost every time.

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    2 hours ago, Matt Trueblood said:

    This is the thing people keep missing, imo, as they advocate for extending Bellinger: he’s hitting free agency. He *has* agency. They can’t just keep him and tell him he’s a first baseman. There’s no way they can pay him as much to play first base as someone will pay him to play center field, so he’s not going to come back to be the first baseman. Again, I could see a scenario (albeit a wild one) where they keep Bellinger, but it’d have to involve either getting a stunning opportunity to cash PCA in for a present-tense star or an even more unlikely trade of Happ or Suzuki. I know no one wants to think of it this way, but extending Happ closed off most realistic avenues to retaining Cody, and anyway, you’re not gonna get him to sign some pre-market extension. He only comes back at the going rate in free agency, which would hamstring them as they try to find a legit slugger and/or new front of the rotation pieces (unless that weird scenario where Happ or Suzuki and their money find a new home does come to fruition).

     So he’s a 25-y.o. COF/1B (and if we’re to believe Suzuki and Happ have the corner OF spots on like for next year as Matt suggests above—a commitment I believe would be a mistake—then he’d be penciled in at 1B) who’s had nagging wrist injuries that have limited him to one full season of PAs over 2.5 seasons and has shown mediocre power at best when he has been able to get on the field. I don’t see the appeal.

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    2 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    To put Alex Kirilloff in context a bit, he's still only 25 years old. In 2019, he was BA's #15 prospect, MLB's #9 prospect, and BP's #39 prospect.

    In 2020, he didn't play because of the pandemic.

    Through 2021-2022, he kept suffering wrist injuries. He's still that guy who was so highly ranked, it's just a matter of whether he recovers from two years of wrist difficulties. He hasn't "failed" at the MLB level so much as he hasn't gotten runway as a healthy player for a long time.

    That's why I'd dislike this trade for the Twins and really like it for the Cubs. I'd bet on Kirilloff for a rental almost every time.

    Only 25?

     

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    7 hours ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    It really depends how Kirilloff's wrist is viewed. If his wrist is healed and he returns to previous performance, he's not without power, he's just a line-drive power guy. 15-20 homers with a balanced offensive approach. Decent average, decent discipline, decent power.

    If his wrist never gets right, he's suddenly the powerless first base guy who will rely more on average and discipline to stay in baseball.

    I just don't see it.  Where on earth do the Cubs find real, 30+ HR power if all the traditional power slots are occupied by "line-drive" guys.  Every time we find a long-term solution that is decent OBP/Low SLG, we lower the ceiling on how good this team can be.  We have a ton of those guys already.   I can see Kirillof having some value,  but less to the Cubs than just about anyone. 

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    As much as I hate to agree with Tom, that's the answer.  The cubs have hit 11 HRs in July with 5 coming from Bellinger.  Power is the problem and this isn't anywhere near a viable solution.

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    Kirilloff's current wRC+ would be Top 10 for qualified 1B, the Cubs have roster/lineup room to get him and another bopper, and there's an obvious reason(health) where his power would increase(he ran IsoPs in AAA similar to Mervis).  There's risk(that's why he's potentially available), but he's clearing a bar they aren't clearing now and provides the hope of future improvement.

     

    I did want to come back to this point from Matt, because at a minimum I think it's debatable or at least the Front Office does not agree.

    On 7/15/2023 at 7:53 AM, Matt Trueblood said:

    On one hand, the team would absolutely get more in a trade than the draft pick they'd get for Bellinger is worth

    We've seen rumblings in the past that the front office values the comp pick much higher than the value charts that tend to get floated online, and behavior both specifically from the Cubs(not trading Contreras) and the league at large in how they approach QO'd free agents indicates that they put a greater value on not only the draft pick itself but the scarce resource of the pool that comes with it.  To put a finer point on it, in recent memory there are not many examples of good/well run teams signing QO free agents without also gaining a QO pick themselves in the same offseason.  I think this is generally how Jed and co approach the QO dynamic, and as such I think Bellinger represents not just a trade asset that happens to have a softer landing than Stroman in terms of "return", but rather the flexibility to be aggressive in FA without giving up too much draft capital that teams unequivocally need to be consistently competitive.

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    The point is, why use one of the two valuable trade chips to try and fill a hole, that may already be filled if they'd just give Mervis an extended look.

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    Just now, Tryptamine said:

    The point is, why use one of the two valuable trade chips to try and fill a hole, that may already be filled if they'd just give Mervis an extended look.

    Kirilloff and Mervis are not mutually exclusive in a lineup.

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    3 minutes ago, Tryptamine said:

    The point is, why use one of the two valuable trade chips to try and fill a hole, that may already be filled if they'd just give Mervis an extended look.

    They absolutely should be giving Mervis that second look. But it’s worth something along those lines that the evaluations of prospect writers before he came up marry nicely with the engines of his struggles when he was in MLB. The doubters aren’t conclusively right, but I give their opinions a bit more weight after seeing him for a stretch at the highest level—enough so, anyway, that I’d be fine bringing in another LHH with a well-rounded skill set, especially since he could DH or play a corner OF spot if Mervis takes off.

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    I have a question someone here might be able to answer:

    Bellinger has a mutual option for 2024. We know those are almost never used so let's just assume he's a free agent.

    How does that work with a QO? Do the two parties decline the mutual option, then the Cubs offer Bellinger the QO?

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    7 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

    I have a question someone here might be able to answer:

    Bellinger has a mutual option for 2024. We know those are almost never used so let's just assume he's a free agent.

    How does that work with a QO? Do the two parties decline the mutual option, then the Cubs offer Bellinger the QO?

    Yes, players with declined options can be given a QO, as long as the player hasn't gotten a QO before.  I know there's technically different mechanics when it comes to team options, player options, opt-outs(aka multi-year player options), or mutual options, but as far as I know there's nothing in those mechanics that could prevent a QO from being offered when the player is hitting free agency after the options aren't exercised.

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    3 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

    Yes, players with declined options can be given a QO, as long as the player hasn't gotten a QO before.  I know there's technically different mechanics when it comes to team options, player options, opt-outs(aka multi-year player options), or mutual options, but as far as I know there's nothing in those mechanics that could prevent a QO from being offered when the player is hitting free agency after the options aren't exercised.

    Thanks. I wasn't sure the order in which these things were triggered so I wasn't sure.

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    14 minutes ago, Transmogrified Tiger said:

    Yes, players with declined options can be given a QO, as long as the player hasn't gotten a QO before.  I know there's technically different mechanics when it comes to team options, player options, opt-outs(aka multi-year player options), or mutual options, but as far as I know there's nothing in those mechanics that could prevent a QO from being offered when the player is hitting free agency after the options aren't exercised.

    I may be wrong, but I thought I had read that Stroman can't be given a qualifying offer because he has a player option. I know you can make a qualifying offer if it's a declined team option. 

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    The Cubs ought to trade Stroman and Hendricks for the best pitching prospects they can get and use the money saved to extend Bellinger.  

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