Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 5-31-17

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Box Scores:

 

Iowa had the day off

 

Tennessee lost 5-3 Box Score

 

RF Je. Baez 0/4, K

LF C. Burks 0/4, K

2B D. Bote 1/3, R, HR (6), RBI, BB, K

CF J. Hannemann 0/3

SS C. Penalver 1/2, 2 R, HR (1), RBI, BB, E (8, fielding)

SP JH Tseng 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 6 K, 1 HR, 3-5 GO-FO, 93-57 pitches-strikes

RP D. Torrez 0.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K, 1-1 GO-FO

 

Myrtle Beach lost 4-3 (14 innings) Box Score

 

2B B. Flete 1/5, R, 2B (10), 2 K

C PJ Higgins 0/5, BB, K, E (2, throw)

LF E. Jimenez 0/5, BB, K

RF E. Martinez 1/6, R, 2 K

1B T. Alamo 1/6, RBI, 2 K, E (3, fielding)

3B J. Hodges 3/6, RBI

SS A. Monasterio 0/5, E (3, throw)

SP K. Miller 4 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 7-1 GO-FO, 67-38 pitches-strikes

RP D. Maples 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 WP, 1-0 GO-FO, balk

 

South Bend lost 9-8 Box Score

 

SS Z. Short 1/5, RBI, K

2B Y. Peguero 0/6, K

C A. Mineo 3/4, R, 2B (8), HBP

3B W. Galindo 1/4, 2 RBi, BB, K

DH I. Paredes 1/4, R, BB, 2 K

LF K. Mitchell 1/5, 2 R, 3 K

SP J. Paulino 2.2 IP, 8 H, 6 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 HR, 1 WP, 4-2 GO-FO, 56-33 pitches-strikes

RP D. Mekkes 2 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 2-1 GO-FO

[CaliforniaRaisin]

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Hope it's not serious. Apparently he even warmed up.

[davell]

Yeah, that seems like something happened within the hour. Hopefully he's sick.

[Aaron_Kennelly]

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Hope it's not serious. Apparently he even warmed up.

 

[NOLA]

Those more up to date on these things, is Tseng still a thing? I remember when there was a bit of buzz about him around here. Will this guy ever be a 6th starter type?

[davell]

Those more up to date on these things, is Tseng still a thing? I remember when there was a bit of buzz about him around here. Will this guy ever be a 6th starter type?

 

He's only 22, he's definitely putting up solid numbers in Tennessee.(though he is repeating the level) The stuff was never eye popping and it seemingly had regressed a bit. But, there's not been any reports surface this season yet, on how he's actually throwing.....

 

Is he a 6th starter type? Maybe. But, its probably for a team trying to be shitty. That said, we'll need to protect him after this season. If we add him to the 40 man, its a decent indicator of how we feel about him obviously.

 

He's kind of a 50/50 guy, as far as that goes, to me BTW. My guess is one of him or Zack Hedges gets added. With the rest of the season determining which one.

[davell]

In a strange piece of good news, Arguello was speaking to a scout recently that told him Moreno was SITTING mid-90's and had touched 98 this spring, before getting hurt. In the past, Arguello had never seen him TOUCH higher than 94.

 

Needless to say, its something to pay attention to.

[CubsWin]

That said, we'll need to protect him after this season. If we add him to the 40 man, its a decent indicator of how we feel about him obviously.

 

He's kind of a 50/50 guy, as far as that goes, to me BTW. My guess is one of him or Zack Hedges gets added. With the rest of the season determining which one.

The Cubs have some interesting decisions to make coming up concerning 40-man additions.

 

Eloy Jimenez

Trevor Clifton

Mark Zagunis

Chesny Young

Oscar De La Cruz

Charcer Burks

Daury Torrez

Adbert Alzolay

Jen-Ho Tseng

Zach Hedges

Brad Markey

 

and to a lesser extent

 

Dillon Maples

Jose Paulino

Seth Frankoff

 

...are all available to be selected in the upcoming Rule 5 draft. However, there are plenty of guys currently on the 40-man that could go. Some of them will be out of options come next season which will make the Cubs decision a little easier.

 

Brett Anderson

Aaron Brooks (Out of options)

Zac Rosscup (Out of options)

Brian Duensing (Right to refuse assignment)

Dylan Floro (Right to elect FA if outrighted)

Justin Grimm

Jack Leathersich

Felix Pena

Rob Zastryzny

Jose Rosario

Jacob Hannemann

 

...as well as other 25-man rostered players that will be free agents

 

Jake Arrieta

John Lackey

Miguel Montero

Jon Jay

Wade Davis

Koji Uehara

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Eloy, Trevor and Oscar should be locks along with Zagunis (who seems a likely trade target). Plenty of guys left need to continue to prove themselves over the course of the season. Should most of them continue to do well, the Cubs could be faced with the choice of having less experienced depth on their 40-man than they may otherwise like. I would consider that a good problem to have.

[CubsWin]

In a strange piece of good news, Arguello was speaking to a scout recently that told him Moreno was SITTING mid-90's and had touched 98 this spring, before getting hurt. In the past, Arguello had never seen him TOUCH higher than 94.

 

Needless to say, its something to pay attention to.

I watched his return performance last night and he looked good. He didn't luck his way into a 4 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K line. Unfortunately, the away announcers didn't mention any velocity readings.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Yeesh. Rough outing for Paulino.

[craig]

In a strange piece of good news, Arguello was speaking to a scout recently that told him Moreno was SITTING mid-90's and had touched 98 this spring, before getting hurt. In the past, Arguello had never seen him TOUCH higher than 94.

 

Needless to say, its something to pay attention to.

 

Wow. Fun.

[craig]

Those more up to date on these things, is Tseng still a thing? I remember when there was a bit of buzz about him around here. Will this guy ever be a 6th starter type?

 

He's only 22, he's definitely putting up solid numbers in Tennessee.(though he is repeating the level) The stuff was never eye popping and it seemingly had regressed a bit. But, there's not been any reports surface this season yet, on how he's actually throwing.....

 

Is he a 6th starter type? Maybe. But, its probably for a team trying to be horsefeathers. .... He's kind of a 50/50 guy, as far as [40-man0 goes, to me BTW...... With the rest of the season determining ....

 

Yeah, time will tell. As you emphasize, we'll see, lots of season left to determine. His good May could be totally an outlier. Or maybe one of these days we'll get a fresh scouting report that sounds better, that makes him sound more promising, and that helps to explain how he's been doing this well.

 

Still, I'm an optimistic guy, so I'm more interested/hopeful than you, Dave. Interesting thing in Tseng's recent starts has been that the K's have been solid. In four of last 6 starts, he's had as many or more K's than innings. His numbers really are pretty nice; 49/11/2 K/BB/HR. Probably flukey/lucky thing, and he's due to get pounded. I suspect the low HR's is the lucky part; his GO/AO is only 0.71, HR should be a vulnerability.

 

But sometimes we find out that results aren't really so much luck, and perhaps reflect pitching realities that weren't were captured by our latest scouting report? I'm a fan of guys who don't walk people, and with K/BB >4. If he's good on 2/3 of K/BB/HR, he's got a chance.

 

I konw your eval is bad #6 for a losing team. But I think we sometimes undervalue "back of rotation" guys. Heh heh, I think I forget the value of a decent "back of rotation" guy until we don't have one! When you're going with brett Anderson, maybe it would be nice to have a decent back-of-rotation guy.

 

Anderson, Butler, John Lackey, those guys are starting 40% of the Cubs games; wouldn't be asking for a super-stud back-of-rotation guy to be better than all three of them? And on a team with a good defense, a good offense, and a good bullpen, all three of which I still hope prove true in future years even if for the moment the offense stinks, a solid #5 starter can start an awful lot of wins.

[Hrubes20]

In a strange piece of good news, Arguello was speaking to a scout recently that told him Moreno was SITTING mid-90's and had touched 98 this spring, before getting hurt. In the past, Arguello had never seen him TOUCH higher than 94.

 

Needless to say, its something to pay attention to.

 

The timing of that is not good. Some arms just can't hold up to the added velo. James Kaprielan is the most recent example of an arm blowing up after extra mphs are discovered.

[davell]

In a strange piece of good news, Arguello was speaking to a scout recently that told him Moreno was SITTING mid-90's and had touched 98 this spring, before getting hurt. In the past, Arguello had never seen him TOUCH higher than 94.

 

Needless to say, its something to pay attention to.

 

The timing of that is not good. Some arms just can't hold up to the added velo. James Kaprielan is the most recent example of an arm blowing up after extra mphs are discovered.

 

But, do we even know what his injury was? I've not seen what caused him to miss the first part of the year. Obviously, he's already had TJS, so damn near everything is something we can find a reason to be concerned about.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

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Hope it's not serious. Apparently he even warmed up.

 

Oscar de la Cruz was placed on the 7-day DL. No information on the injury.