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If the White Sox are willing to pay the money Harper wants, it's not too crazy to think he'd go there. The deal would inevitably allow him to opt out early on, he'd be in a big market, and it's a young team that's in a complete trash fire of a division. Dude's gotta be thinking at least a little along the lines of, "surely I, the mighty Bryce Harper, am baller enough to make this work."
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Dude's gotta be thinking at least a little along the lines of, "surely I, the mighty Bryce Harper, am baller enough to make this work."

 

There's also the possibility that he doesn't want to have to do that.

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he has me blocked on twitter, so i could be remembering wrong, but wasn't he one of the guys poo-pooing the cubs spending big this offseason a few weeks ago?

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Dude's gotta be thinking at least a little along the lines of, "surely I, the mighty Bryce Harper, am baller enough to make this work."

 

There's also the possibility that he doesn't want to have to do that.

 

No kidding; the point is that is not THAT bonkers that Harper would go there if they were willing to pay him what he wants. And, let's face it, that Reinsdorf is Reinsdorf is the biggest hurdle to that happening and why it likely won't happen, not, "LOL THE WHITE SOX PROSPECTS ARE ACTUALLY MADE UP OF BROKEN GI JOE FIGURES WITH POPSICLE STICKS FOR ARMS."

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Dude's gotta be thinking at least a little along the lines of, "surely I, the mighty Bryce Harper, am baller enough to make this work."

 

There's also the possibility that he doesn't want to have to do that.

 

No kidding; the point is that is not THAT bonkers that Harper would go there if they were willing to pay him what he wants. And, let's face it, that Reinsdorf is Reinsdorf is the biggest hurdle to that happening and why it likely won't happen, not, "LOL THE WHITE SOX PROSPECTS ARE ACTUALLY MADE UP OF BROKEN GI JOE FIGURES WITH POPSICLE STICKS FOR ARMS."

 

yeah, but he's gonna have no shortage of teams that'll pay him what he wants. i think they'd have to blow teams out of the water to get him, given the overall picture. and reinsdorf's history makes it really hard to see them blowing the field out of the water, so by extension, i consider the idea pretty bonkers.

 

also did you edit that reinsdorf stuff in after i thought of my response or am i going nuts?

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he has me blocked on twitter, so i could be remembering wrong, but wasn't he one of the guys poo-pooing the cubs spending big this offseason a few weeks ago?

 

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There's also the possibility that he doesn't want to have to do that.

 

No kidding; the point is that is not THAT bonkers that Harper would go there if they were willing to pay him what he wants. And, let's face it, that Reinsdorf is Reinsdorf is the biggest hurdle to that happening and why it likely won't happen, not, "LOL THE WHITE SOX PROSPECTS ARE ACTUALLY MADE UP OF BROKEN GI JOE FIGURES WITH POPSICLE STICKS FOR ARMS."

 

yeah, but he's gonna have no shortage of teams that'll pay him what he wants. i think they'd have to blow teams out of the water to get him, given the overall picture. and reinsdorf's history makes it really hard to see them blowing the field out of the water, so by extension, i consider the idea pretty bonkers.

 

also did you edit that reinsdorf stuff in after i thought of my response or am i going nuts?

 

Disagree strongly that there's going to be a ton of teams willing to pay him what he wants.

 

And no I did not.

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Disagree strongly that there's going to be a ton of teams willing to pay him what he wants.

 

age 26 generational (blah blah debate over this word) talents don't come through free agency but like once a decade, if that. i think all the public disinterest teams are showing is almost entirely negotiating/posturing.

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he has me blocked on twitter, so i could be remembering wrong, but wasn't he one of the guys poo-pooing the cubs spending big this offseason a few weeks ago?

 

Yes:

 

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Is someone willing to call him out on that and risk the ultimate penalty of being blocked by The Kap Man on Twitter?

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Thinking aloud here...does anyone remember who first reported the Cubs as being serious players for Heyward?

 

I seem to remember it coming somewhat out of nowhere, as people (especially the local media) weren't expecting a big splash signing in 2015-16 after they signed Lester the year before. We speculated about it here a lot, but I don't remember the media seeing it coming far ahead. I actually remember DiCaro, of all people, Tweeting some stuff, but don't remember where the first reports came from that the Cubs were strongly in.

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Disagree strongly that there's going to be a ton of teams willing to pay him what he wants.

 

age 26 generational (blah blah debate over this word) talents don't come through free agency but like once a decade, if that. i think all the public disinterest teams are showing is almost entirely negotiating/posturing.

 

Again, strongly disagree. I'd genuinely be surprised if there were even 10 teams even just considering that type of mega contract.

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Disagree strongly that there's going to be a ton of teams willing to pay him what he wants.

 

age 26 generational (blah blah debate over this word) talents don't come through free agency but like once a decade, if that. i think all the public disinterest teams are showing is almost entirely negotiating/posturing.

 

Again, strongly disagree. I'd genuinely be surprised if there were even 10 teams even just considering that type of mega contract.

 

well ten teams would be a lot to choose from. so would half that. and given the types of franchises likely to be involved in that grouping, i'd have a hard time seeing the white sox being one of the most attractive options (again, without blowing the field out of the water in terms of money).

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Thinking aloud here...does anyone remember who first reported the Cubs as being serious players for Heyward?

 

I seem to remember it coming somewhat out of nowhere, as people (especially the local media) weren't expecting a big splash signing in 2015-16 after they signed Lester the year before. We speculated about it here a lot, but I don't remember the media seeing it coming far ahead. I actually remember DiCaro, of all people, Tweeting some stuff, but don't remember where the first reports came from that the Cubs were strongly in.

 

I think I must be remembering wrong, but in my mind I got a push notification on my phone that he was signed and had no idea they were even in the mix. A couple of weeks ago I even looked for the thread to try and confirm that but couldn't find it.

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age 26 generational (blah blah debate over this word) talents don't come through free agency but like once a decade, if that. i think all the public disinterest teams are showing is almost entirely negotiating/posturing.

 

Again, strongly disagree. I'd genuinely be surprised if there were even 10 teams even just considering that type of mega contract.

 

well ten teams would be a lot to choose from. so would half that. and given the types of franchises likely to be involved in that grouping, i'd have a hard time seeing the white sox being one of the most attractive options (again, without blowing the field out of the water in terms of money).

 

Then we just have wildly different ideas of what "no shortage of teams" means out of 30 teams. To me, only 4-5 teams, tops (and that's also all I think is probably out there), being likely suitors is not that.

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No kidding; the point is that is not THAT bonkers that Harper would go there if they were willing to pay him what he wants. And, let's face it, that Reinsdorf is Reinsdorf is the biggest hurdle to that happening and why it likely won't happen, not, "LOL THE WHITE SOX PROSPECTS ARE ACTUALLY MADE UP OF BROKEN GI JOE FIGURES WITH POPSICLE STICKS FOR ARMS."

 

yeah, but he's gonna have no shortage of teams that'll pay him what he wants. i think they'd have to blow teams out of the water to get him, given the overall picture. and reinsdorf's history makes it really hard to see them blowing the field out of the water, so by extension, i consider the idea pretty bonkers.

 

also did you edit that reinsdorf stuff in after i thought of my response or am i going nuts?

 

Disagree strongly that there's going to be a ton of teams willing to pay him what he wants.

 

And no I did not.

 

 

I also think the market for Harper will be pretty limited. The buyers have already made some big deals and the sellers are having fire sales for their big name players.

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Thinking aloud here...does anyone remember who first reported the Cubs as being serious players for Heyward?

 

I seem to remember it coming somewhat out of nowhere, as people (especially the local media) weren't expecting a big splash signing in 2015-16 after they signed Lester the year before. We speculated about it here a lot, but I don't remember the media seeing it coming far ahead. I actually remember DiCaro, of all people, Tweeting some stuff, but don't remember where the first reports came from that the Cubs were strongly in.

 

I think I must be remembering wrong, but in my mind I got a push notification on my phone that he was signed and had no idea they were even in the mix. A couple of weeks ago I even looked for the thread to try and confirm that but couldn't find it.

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archive/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=64666&sid=477b44cfe63b78e1c6796bdda36e3597

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Thinking aloud here...does anyone remember who first reported the Cubs as being serious players for Heyward?

 

I seem to remember it coming somewhat out of nowhere, as people (especially the local media) weren't expecting a big splash signing in 2015-16 after they signed Lester the year before. We speculated about it here a lot, but I don't remember the media seeing it coming far ahead. I actually remember DiCaro, of all people, Tweeting some stuff, but don't remember where the first reports came from that the Cubs were strongly in.

 

I think I must be remembering wrong, but in my mind I got a push notification on my phone that he was signed and had no idea they were even in the mix. A couple of weeks ago I even looked for the thread to try and confirm that but couldn't find it.

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archive/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=64666&sid=477b44cfe63b78e1c6796bdda36e3597

Yeah, that definitely didn't come out of nowhere. It was discussed for a while.

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Again, strongly disagree. I'd genuinely be surprised if there were even 10 teams even just considering that type of mega contract.

 

well ten teams would be a lot to choose from. so would half that. and given the types of franchises likely to be involved in that grouping, i'd have a hard time seeing the white sox being one of the most attractive options (again, without blowing the field out of the water in terms of money).

 

Then we just have wildly different ideas of what "no shortage of teams" means out of 30 teams. To me, only 4-5 teams, tops (and that's also all I think is probably out there), being likely suitors is not that.

 

in a "here's 5 teams offering you 350 (or 400 or whatever) million, pick one" situation, among the organizations likely to be able/willing to do that, i just have a hard time seeing the sox winning out.

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well ten teams would be a lot to choose from. so would half that. and given the types of franchises likely to be involved in that grouping, i'd have a hard time seeing the white sox being one of the most attractive options (again, without blowing the field out of the water in terms of money).

 

Then we just have wildly different ideas of what "no shortage of teams" means out of 30 teams. To me, only 4-5 teams, tops (and that's also all I think is probably out there), being likely suitors is not that.

 

in a "here's 5 teams offering you 350 (or 400 or whatever) million, pick one" situation, among the organizations likely to be able/willing to do that, i just have a hard time seeing the sox winning out.

 

Well, yeah, if you're assuming that everyone is just offering up essentially the same contract.

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I think I must be remembering wrong, but in my mind I got a push notification on my phone that he was signed and had no idea they were even in the mix. A couple of weeks ago I even looked for the thread to try and confirm that but couldn't find it.

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archive/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=64666&sid=477b44cfe63b78e1c6796bdda36e3597

Yeah, that definitely didn't come out of nowhere. It was discussed for a while.

 

i mean from the media, particularly the local media, and mostly prior to the winter meetings. it picked up steam right around this time that year.

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/archive/viewtopic.php?p=3319208#p3319208

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The long and short of it is that all of our beat writers except Sharma are morons, and Sharma's not a big time inside sources guy. If Passan/Rosenthal say something, give it some weight, otherwise it's either nonsense or coming from someone who puts out enough nonsense that you can't really say what's actually real.
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Again, strongly disagree. I'd genuinely be surprised if there were even 10 teams even just considering that type of mega contract.

 

well ten teams would be a lot to choose from. so would half that. and given the types of franchises likely to be involved in that grouping, i'd have a hard time seeing the white sox being one of the most attractive options (again, without blowing the field out of the water in terms of money).

 

Then we just have wildly different ideas of what "no shortage of teams" means out of 30 teams. To me, only 4-5 teams, tops (and that's also all I think is probably out there), being likely suitors is not that.

 

Cubs and Yankees would be enough to choose from in terms of getting paid.

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i believe the math for the Sox signing Harper is exactly this

 

Harper's number 1 consideration being signing the biggest contract offered

 

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Sox offering the biggest contract

 

I don't see either of those ending up happening.

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