Bulls 2016-2017 Season

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Is Butler a legit top 10 player in the league now? Lebron, Curry, Durant, Harden, Westbrook, Davis, Lilliard are the first tier. But Butler is right there in that 2nd tier with guys like Derozan, Isiah Thomas, Leonard, and Kyrie Irving....and I'd take Butler over at least a couple of those guys.

 

lillard? nah.

 

lebron, curry, durant, harden, kawhi, paul, westbrook, harden, davis, griffin, and maybe kyrie is the top 10 in some order

 

jimmy's somewhere between 10-15. i'd put derozan and lillard in that group.

 

KAT will assume top 5-7 status by year end IMO

 

I'll give you Kyrie and Kahwi, those are the 2 guys in my group of 4 that I wouldn't take Butler over. But Griffin? Paul? I honestly never been a huge Griffin fan, made a lot better by Chris Paul. Paul is still pretty good, but he's getting up there in age, I think Kyrie's better and he's at the bottom on my top 10. Either way, I think we're both talking about Butler pretty close to the top 10. I'd put him right at 10.

 

I'll be a homer (not really, since the consensus of ranking sites has him in the top 10) and suggest Paul George should be in this conversation. George and Butler are actually a fascinating head to head comparison because they are so similar of players. Butler's been better at getting to the rim while George has been better behind the arc, but other than that their games match up fairly well.

[David]

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i know we're not gonna give up on rondo just yet but this team could really use a pg who can guard a little and hit a 3 when left open.

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i know we're not gonna give up on rondo just yet but this team could really use a pg who can guard a little and hit a 3 when left open.

From the defensive standpoint, MCW was filling that roll pretty well before the injury.

[David]

Surprised UMFan hadn't posted it...

 

6. Chicago Bulls

2016-17 record: 10-6

Previous ranking: 8

 

How perfect. The Bulls have only one game left this month: Wednesday night's date with the Lakers. The same Lakers who stand as the only team that can realistically deny Jimmy Butler & Co. from being crowned November's Biggest Surprise Team. Chicago awoke Monday on a short list of three teams, alongside only Golden State and the L.A. Clippers, that find themselves in the top 10 in both offensive and defensive efficiency -- as predicted by absolutely no one.

 

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18156132/nba-power-rankings-marc-stein-week-6-ranking

 

5

Chicago Bulls

Last week: 5

Chicago Bulls

Record: 10-6

Pace: 97.7 (22) OffRtg: 107.0 (7) DefRtg: 102.1 (8) NetRtg: +4.9 (6)

 

The Bulls went 4-2 on the final circus trip, though they might want a redo on Tuesday's final offensive possession in Denver, in which they drew up a play for an Isaiah Canaan airball. Of course, it's not like Jimmy Butler (4-for-17) and Dwyane Wade (3-for-13) have shot well in clutch situations. Canaan's shot hasn't been the only issue with their bench of late, as they've been outscored by 31 points in 34 minutes with Jimmy Butler off the floor in their last three games. Their bench has been better at home than on the road and they now play nine of their next 12 games at the United Center.

 

This week: vs. LAL, vs. CLE, @ DAL

 

http://www.nba.com/powerrankings (what a dumb snippet they wrote - but they have us as the 5th best team in the NBA, so I posted it anyway)

[David]

Tonight should be a blowout win against a shorthanded and tired Lakers team. Hopefully no weird trap game crap with the Cavs game coming up.

 

Can't believe we had so many damn days off in a row. So strange.

[David]

this team is so fun

[bcl412]

I hope MCW and McDermott's return help the bench. It's ugly with them out there. Also would enjoy seeing something fun from Portis.

[David]

this team is so fun

 

except when bobby portis is in the game

[bcl412]

this team is so fun

 

except when bobby portis is in the game

He was out there a long time and did no good things and lots of bad things

[SpongeWorthy]

lopez shoots way too much

 

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[bcl412]

Teams seem to always play like crap the first home game after a long trip.

[SpongeWorthy]

this is horrendous basketball

[SpongeWorthy]

this team sucks

[David]

this team sucks

 

no, they really don't by any definition of that word.

 

but this game sucked. and we really need mcdermott and mcw back. and portis needs to be in the d league.

[UMFan83]

Very strange loss. Big early lead coming off 4 days of rest against a theoretically inferior team playing their 3rd game in 4 nights on the road.

[bcl412]

Did they hit a jumper in the second half?

[SpongeWorthy]

this team sucks

 

no, they really don't by any definition of that word.

 

but this game sucked. and we really need mcdermott and mcw back. and portis needs to be in the d league.

maybe a 6th seed in the east at best

[UMFan83]

this team sucks

 

no, they really don't by any definition of that word.

 

but this game sucked. and we really need mcdermott and mcw back. and portis needs to be in the d league.

 

I think they are a 6-8 seed, which is higher than I expected going in. Decent, good even, but not immune to these types of losses.

 

disclaimer: have legit watched maybe 30 minutes of Bulls basketball this year. Rest of the time has been the game on in the background while doing other things. For some reason this team doesn't interest me as much as it should.

[bcl412]

this team sucks

 

no, they really don't by any definition of that word.

 

but this game sucked. and we really need mcdermott and mcw back. and portis needs to be in the d league.

maybe a 6th seed in the east at best

Only cleveland and toronto are good in the east. 3 through whatever are up for grabs.

[David]

this team sucks

 

no, they really don't by any definition of that word.

 

but this game sucked. and we really need mcdermott and mcw back. and portis needs to be in the d league.

maybe a 6th seed in the east at best

 

want to bet?

[SpongeWorthy]

 

no, they really don't by any definition of that word.

 

but this game sucked. and we really need mcdermott and mcw back. and portis needs to be in the d league.

maybe a 6th seed in the east at best

Only cleveland and toronto are good in the east. 3 through whatever are up for grabs.

boston, charlotte, and atlanta will be comfortably ahead of the bulls in the standings by year end

[David]

this weird ass game (after for some reason like 5 days off) where they lost to a much worse (partly because shorthanded) team, wherein one of the best rebounding teams in basketball got out-rebounded badly and they shot 35% as a team isn't some sort of referendum on the season. oh and they put them on the line a horsefeathers ton when they are one of the best teams in the league at keeping teams off the line. where are the posts when they're winning games by double digits routinely (edit - this is probably overstating the point differential - but they've had lots of big leads, some big wins, and have mostly lost close, with a couple exceptions)?

 

they've played like a top 10 team on both offense and defense this year. there aren't many teams who can make that claim.

Edited December 1, 2016 by David

[David]

maybe a 6th seed in the east at best

Only cleveland and toronto are good in the east. 3 through whatever are up for grabs.

boston, charlotte, and atlanta will be comfortably ahead of the bulls in the standings by year end

 

i will gladly wager on this with you. you seem very convinced.

[bcl412]

maybe a 6th seed in the east at best

Only cleveland and toronto are good in the east. 3 through whatever are up for grabs.

boston, charlotte, and atlanta will be comfortably ahead of the bulls in the standings by year end

I might agree but all those teams have looked as bad as the bulls looked in individual games this year too.

[David]

this team sucks

 

no, they really don't by any definition of that word.

 

but this game sucked. and we really need mcdermott and mcw back. and portis needs to be in the d league.

 

I think they are a 6-8 seed, which is higher than I expected going in. Decent, good even, but not immune to these types of losses.

 

disclaimer: have legit watched maybe 30 minutes of Bulls basketball this year. Rest of the time has been the game on in the background while doing other things. For some reason this team doesn't interest me as much as it should.

 

this is probably the worst loss of the year... it's this or denver. Actually, the knicks game is up there too.

 

the loss to the clippers sucked because they had a big lead against an elite team, but the clippers are really damn good.