Draft Pick Trades 2016

[Tim]

From the archive thread:

 

The Process gets Cucamonga's 2016 minor league 2nd rounder

 

Theocracy gets North side Baseball's 2nd rd minor league pick

 

Theocracy gets The Process 1st round Major League pick in the 2016 pick.

 

Theocracy will receive Cucamonga Cracker Killer's 5th round major league pick..

 

In the Zobrist+Lester for Strasburg trade, I get HBC's 2nd round mlb pick and first round milb pick.

 

NSBB gets Hips 1st round prospect pick for Heyward.

 

I get IMB's first round prospect pick for Anibal.

 

Roady gets HBC's 2nd round pick and my 1st round prospect pick and I get his fifth round pick in the Votto/Fielder swap.

 

johnny gets my 2nd rounder and I get his 5th in the hanley/schwarber deal.

 

I receive Roady's 1st rd. minor league pick in the Martinez/Giolito trade.

 

calvinball gets the process' 4th round pick in the mlb draft

 

I get sneaky's third round pick and he gets my sixth in the Odor/Ortiz + Myers swap.

 

Somebody needs to apply sneaky's translation to those trades. I may also propose adding some picks back in for the newbies. A couple teams seem like they're kinda screwed.

[sneakypower]

MLB draft

 

1st round

NSBB gets Theocracy's pick

Theocracy gets Cubs in AZ's pick

 

2nd round

Tim Rodelo gets Harry Bud Crew's pick

Chicago Pigeons gets Calvinball's pick

 

3rd round

NSBB gets Cucamonga Cracker Killers pick

Rodelo gets NSBB's pick

 

4th round

Calvinball gets Cubs in AZ's pick

 

5th round

Theocracy gets Cucamonga Cracker Killers pick

NSBB gets Rodelo's pick

Calvinball gets Chicago Pigeons pick

 

6th round

Rodelo gets Calvinball's 6th

Cucamonga Cracker Killers gets NSBB's pick

 

7th round

Calvinball gets Rodelo's 6th

 

Minor League draft

 

1st round

NSBB gets Theocracy's pick

NSBB gets Cubs in AZ's pick

NSBB gets Chicago Pigeons' pick

NSBB gets Harry Bud Crew's pick

Theocracy gets Rodelo's pick

Rodelo gets NSBB's pick

 

2nd round

Cubs in AZ gets Cucamonga Cracker Killers pick

Theocracy gets NSBB's pick

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Imb really went for it last year

[Tim]

In that gigantic trade between Todd and I, I get his first pick in the mlb and milb drafts.

[sneakypower]

because of course

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shoulda stuck with my gut

[sneakypower]

In that gigantic trade between Todd and I, I get his first pick in the mlb and milb drafts.

i don't think it's controversial to say these things are roughly true

pineda = odorizzi

exempt danny salazar = kluber at 613pts

reddick, holliday, prince have little to no value pre-roster-set

 

so sure why not add both #2 overall picks on top of it all

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In that gigantic trade between Todd and I, I get his first pick in the mlb and milb drafts.

i don't think it's controversial to say these things are roughly true

pineda = odorizzi

exempt danny salazar = kluber at 613pts

reddick, holliday, prince have little to no value pre-roster-set

 

so sure why not add both #2 overall picks on top of it all

 

and on top of this, literally no one else has been discussing trades since the end of last season. We barely filled all the manager slots, assuming we have (I still haven't received a response from Bob or Navin to my pm asking them to confirm they're still in). And the day I say it's ok to start trading, you've already completed a 7-player, 2-draft pick trade in which you've clearly gotten the advantage over the other team.

 

I think sneaky is correct in his assessment, but prince in particular is worthless pre-draft to most teams, but esp UK. He isn't 1B eligible this year and UK already has Sano as an exempt (and better) keeper who is only eligible at Util. Even if he becomes 1B eligible, he already has Duda who is roughly equal in value to Prince.

[Tim]

Was I supposed to turn it down?

[sneakypower]

Was I supposed to turn it down?

hard to say, because this league oddly doesn't actually have veto vote like every other league in the world does, so massively tilted heists like 12 free years of Correa/Bryant/Stroman + a 1st for Trout/Waino & the 1200 pts they carry just passes right on through without question...as does 8 years of free Schwarber/Jose Berrios getting swapped for a month? plus of the Hanley experience(going off memory on these)

 

and i honestly just suspect this was all largely due to managers not understanding the full complexities of the league setup, so i have the reaction that stuff like this is fairly predatory, is that fair to say? where are those managers now? i give you enough credit that you full-well know the enormous charity you've been gifted in trades like this, so imagine my amazement to see the trade details less than a full day after a quote like "A couple teams seem like they're kinda screwed."

 

so now who then takes over this newly depleted team next year? what's the end game here?

[Tim]

Was I supposed to turn it down?

hard to say, because this league oddly doesn't actually have veto vote like every other league in the world does, so massively tilted heists like 12 free years of Correa/Bryant/Stroman + a 1st for Trout/Waino & the 1200 pts they carry just passes right on through without question...as does 8 years of free Schwarber/Jose Berrios getting swapped for a month? plus of the Hanley experience(going off memory on these)

 

and i honestly just suspect this was all largely due to managers not understanding the full complexities of the league setup, so i have the reaction that stuff like this is fairly predatory, is that fair to say? where are those managers now? i give you enough credit that you full-well know the enormous haul you've been gifted in trades like this, so imagine my amazement to see the trade details less than a full day after a quote like "A couple teams seem like they're kinda screwed."

 

so now who then takes over this newly depleted team next year? what's the end game here?

In this specific case, UK has been around for a long time. He was out for a couple years, but he's been in the league since 2003. I also don't quite agree with your math on the deal, but that's a smaller point.

 

In general, though, the commish does have veto powers. I'll whine a bit that I'm being singled out when the schwarbs deal stands, but I'll get it.

[sneakypower]

i did just remark about the Schwarber larceny

[Tim]

i did just remark about the Schwarber larceny

I meant if my trade gets vetoed.

[sneakypower]

we haven't had a trade vetoed in the time i've been in the league, so i don't know that you have reason to worry there

 

i'm just trying to articulate that continued willful decimation of teams in the bottom half of the standings will ultimately make this league a non-entity in short order; if you're fine with that then ok, proceed as normal

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what's your issue with the schwarber trade?

 

that was made on june 16. looks great for me in hindsight since schwarber owned and HRam was injured for almost 2 months but I made that trade b/c I was giving up on the season. At the time, Hanley had missed like 5 games and had like 15 HRs and an .800 OPS and was scorching in June (and still SS eligible). And I swapped my 2nd round pick for tree's 5th. And tree made the horsefeathering playoffs, which was the whole point for him.

 

Would he have been better off with Schwarber, yes? If anyone other than you knew that, I'd be shocked.

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Was I supposed to turn it down?

 

you mean since the deal was negotiated before the trading window was even open and no one else was making offers and the league didn't have managers? yes, probably.

[Tim]

MLB draft

 

1st round

NSBB gets Theocracy's pick

Theocracy gets Cubs in AZ's pick

 

2nd round

Tim Rodelo gets Harry Bud Crew's pick

Chicago Pigeons gets Calvinball's pick

 

3rd round

NSBB gets Cucamonga Cracker Killers pick

Rodelo gets NSBB's pick

 

4th round

Calvinball gets Cubs in AZ's pick

 

5th round

Theocracy gets Cucamonga Cracker Killers pick

NSBB gets Rodelo's pick

Calvinball gets Chicago Pigeons pick

 

6th round

Rodelo gets Calvinball's 6th

Cucamonga Cracker Killers gets NSBB's pick

 

7th round

Calvinball gets Rodelo's 6th

 

Minor League draft

 

1st round

NSBB gets Theocracy's pick

NSBB gets Cubs in AZ's pick

NSBB gets Chicago Pigeons' pick

NSBB gets Harry Bud Crew's pick

Theocracy gets Rodelo's pick

Rodelo gets NSBB's pick

 

2nd round

Cubs in AZ gets Cucamonga Cracker Killers pick

Theocracy gets NSBB's pick

I believe I got all those major league pick trades completed.